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Old 02-02-2021, 08:57 PM
 
Location: Russia
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Yes I also saw this on the Russian propaganda news.
What does the Russian media have to do with it? All this write the Western media. Here's a fresh example. Or is the NYT also Russian propaganda?

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/12/h...ine-death.html
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Old 02-02-2021, 09:21 PM
 
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When will Ukraine start vaccinating their people?

Nobody knows.

They are too busy over there, shutting down TV channels that dare to criticize the government and Telegram channels.

And then they scream about "Putin's authoritarianism," apparently being afraid to be infected by it via Russian vaccine. (All while increasingly relying on Nazi "stronghold." )
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Old 02-03-2021, 11:51 AM
DKM
 
Location: California
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What does the Russian media have to do with it? All this write the Western media. Here's a fresh example. Or is the NYT also Russian propaganda?

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/12/h...ine-death.html
That has nothing to do with "dozens of people dying from it" as Russian news falsely claims.
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Old 02-03-2021, 11:54 AM
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When will Ukraine start vaccinating their people?
Wrong thread but the plan is to start a week from Monday. There is a chart showing the schedule here. Bottom line, its going to be a long year for them. It would not surprise me if corrupt officials or oligarchs get in the way (the EU already suggests that may be the case).

https://www.kmu.gov.ua/en/news/vakci...remyer-ministr
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Old 02-03-2021, 03:28 PM
 
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Wrong thread but the plan is to start a week from Monday. There is a chart showing the schedule here. Bottom line, its going to be a long year for them. It would not surprise me if corrupt officials or oligarchs get in the way (the EU already suggests that may be the case).

https://www.kmu.gov.ua/en/news/vakci...remyer-ministr

"Corrupt officials?" "Oligarchs?"
Pray-tell me, where did they come from in "free and democratic Ukraine" post Maidan, post 2014, when American democracy turned it into anti-Russian colony and set all kinds of "anti-corruption bureaus" there?

Whence they came then, these very "corrupt officials" and "oligarchs"?
The answer is obvious.

They didn't go anywhere, they were just reshuffled by the US government, that appointed the "convenient overseers" in those "anti-corruption" entities that have nothing to do with "anti corruption measures," and everything - with who better serves the interests of American government, or better say - Democrats.

And that's why Trump was sucked into this serpentarium with no way out.
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Old 02-03-2021, 05:27 PM
 
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OK, so now, after that explicit interview to Spanish radio by Sharij, and shutdown of the opposition TV channels in Ukraine, the *concerns* of the newly-appointed Secretary of State, Anthony Blinken for "absence of democracy in Russia" is amusing to say the least.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2JMYjc1Jd4


Of course we are "deeply disturbed" by "what happened to Navalny," but what about Sharijs fearing for their lives in Spain?
Or what about the shut down of Ukrainian TV channels daring to challenge the government's propaganda?

Any comments, Mr. Blinken?
I am all ears.
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Old 02-03-2021, 07:21 PM
DKM
 
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You're really trying to compare a Russian propagandist with Alexei Navalny? Or the closure of Russian propaganda networks the same as what Russia's government is doing to prevent democracy? LOL
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Old 02-03-2021, 08:16 PM
 
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You're really trying to compare a Russian propagandist with Alexei Navalny? Or the closure of Russian propaganda networks the same as what Russia's government is doing to prevent democracy? LOL

You mean Anatoly Sharij?

He promotes MY beliefs first of all, the kind I share, which I consider to be true European values.

Why do you keep on labeling him as "Russian propagandist" - I have no idea.

I can label you as Nazi propagandist as well, ( labels are easy,) and let's see how you can prove that you are not, lol.

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Old 02-03-2021, 09:50 PM
 
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That has nothing to do with "dozens of people dying from it" as Russian news falsely claims.
Russian media reprint information about such cases from Western media. It mean that the original source of the lie is the Western media.
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Old 02-04-2021, 08:13 AM
 
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In their blind demonization of Putin, and consequent sanctification of Navalny, Western commentators seem to be implicitly assuming that should Navalny win power (which he almost certainly will not), Russia’s foreign policy would change radically in a pro-Western direction. This is nonsense. Navalny’s supporters are backing him out of (entirely justified) fury at Russian state corruption, lawlessness, and economic failure, not to change foreign policy. Every independent opinion poll has suggested that Putin’s foreign and security policies have enjoyed overwhelming public support; and above all, there is very little in Navalny’s own record to suggest that he would change them.

As a 2013 essay by Robert Coalson in The Atlantic documented, Navalny supported the Russian war with Georgia in 2008. He has expressed strongly ethno-nationalist attitudes towards the Caucasian minorities in Russia, and previously made opposition to illegal immigration a key part of his platform. In October 2014 he suggested to a reporter that if he became president he would not return Crimea, which was annexed by Russia earlier that year, to Ukraine (though he also said in that same interview that, “It’s not in the interests of Russians to seize neighboring republics, it’s in their interests to fight corruption, alcoholism and so on — to solve internal problems.”
https://responsiblestatecraft.org/20...hat-he-is-not/
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