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Old 02-07-2021, 10:20 AM
 
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Trump did five things against Russian interests Obama was afraid to do:

1) Bomb Assad's forces when they "crossed a line".
2) Give Ukraine lethal arms and combat training.
3) Move military to Poland
4) Forced delay of Nordstream 2
5) Welcomed Macedonia into NATO

You could argue how big of a deal they were, but they weren't received well in Moscow that is for sure.

The only things I can think of he did in Russia's interest:

1) Talked about Russian relations as if they were more important
2) Actively worked against NATO overall and pulled some troops from Europe and Syria.

And you're ignoring what Republicans other than Trump have said about Russia and its not exactly a love song.

DKM, think for a moment; if someone thinks that relations with country the A. ( Russia, Germany, Burundi, whatever) is "more important," then what would this person envision for his policies with such country?

Hostile actions? Lethal arms supplied to its enemies?

What?
Obviously Trump's intentions towards Russia, his planned politics were very different comparably to what took place.

Because of all the howling coming from the "left," his advisers decided to not to risk his presidency, and necessary sacrifices on that front were made.

But even then, the actions of Trump's cabinet were not enough.
When it comes to Russia, the left wants blood, they want to go for the "jugular vein," so my explanation of the difference between Trump's approach and the approach of the "left" to Russia still stands.



P.S. Of course there are some Republicans that side with Democrats on certain issues, Russia being one of them. ( And vice versa.)
It's to be expected.
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Old 02-08-2021, 08:04 AM
 
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There is no opposition in Russia because the groups opposed to Putin are idiots.

https://www.rt.com/russia/514908-lib...split-navalny/

They can't agree to work together.
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Old 02-08-2021, 08:35 AM
 
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Electorate tends to coalesce around a leader that provides the most security when a country feels threatened externally. The 1990's also provide a lesson on what would happen if outside influences had their way. Safety nets and public services would be eliminated. Currency would be devalued and interest rates would sharply rise. The state would become less able to afford the military expenditures. The resulting social chaos would be aimed at getting more republics to break apart and valuable industries to be sold to outside investors.

In the present global economic system, those kinds of things should be going on in the US, Europe, and Japan due to their extreme indebtedness. They're well past the point where Shock Therapy has been applied to countries like Yugoslavia, Zimbabwe, Venezuela, etc. It is all about trade flows. When they can't accumulate enough reserves from trade, the problems of external debt will appear since they won't be able to control the currency exchange rates.
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Old 02-08-2021, 01:59 PM
DKM
 
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There is no opposition in Russia because the groups opposed to Putin are idiots.

https://www.rt.com/russia/514908-lib...split-navalny/

They can't agree to work together.
Some truth to this. But you can't say exactly how it would be if opposition were permitted without threat of violence and seizure.
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Old 02-09-2021, 05:25 AM
 
Location: Russia
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Fun fact . Birch bark letter of 1140-1160 from Staraya Russa.
Translation
- Instruction from Radoslav to brother Hoteslav to take money from a merchant
- A caustic answer from Hoteslav ("Be like everyone else").



http://gramoty.ru/uploads/media/bb__...Thumbnail.jpeg


https://i.ibb.co/wz0M2pw/image.jpg

"Answer of Hoteslav is a vivid evidence of the high ingenuity of ancient Russian man in the field of non-trivial swearing."
Toropova, Zaliznyak 2004

It is indestructible in Russian language.

Last edited by Maksim_Frolov; 02-09-2021 at 05:34 AM..
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Old 02-09-2021, 07:01 AM
 
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latini...e_Soviet_Union


Why was latinization of Russian script stopped?
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Old 02-09-2021, 06:11 PM
 
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Some truth to this. But you can't say exactly how it would be if opposition were permitted without threat of violence and seizure.
Just so you know DKM I agree that it is time for Putin to go. He should step down. The question is who will replace him and his people? Russia has made huge strides and continues to make significant progress, Russians have never been as well off in their entire history as they are now. If you work hard and apply yourself constructively in life you can have a very good life.

I do believe Russia is under threat also. Foreign powers seek the overthrow of the Russian state and the destruction of Russia as a nation.

https://www.rt.com/russia/515060-mfa...to-opposition/

Navalny is a crazy man with a messiah complex. He's an egomaniac making the wrong bets and he is a traitor to his country.

I can see no reason for Russia to change anything considering the situation. As a matter of fact Russia should be harsher in ways. The only thing the west understands is a club upside the head.
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Old 02-09-2021, 11:57 PM
 
Location: Russia
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latini...e_Soviet_Union

Why was latinization of Russian script stopped?
Because it's inconvenient.
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Old 02-12-2021, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Russia
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New poem about Moscow from Alexander Elin. He is an oppositionist and I do not agree with him, but he is very talented.

Spoiler

(масквич, классика - 3)

Мы просрали свой город, знакомый до слёз
он раздавлен шипами менто́вских колёс
он платок на роток, он расфренд и развод
полигон для неместных лихих воевод

мы просрали свой город - похоже, что весь,
нам расслабила булки столичная спесь
и теперь то что ты надрываясь воздвиг
будет пользовать верный царю силовик

побеждает лишь тот, кто по-сельски хитёр
братья вызвали братьев, а сёстры сестёр
и в гостиных уже обсуждаем не арт
а еврейские корни и типы грин-карт

Лейтенант! я еще не хочу удирать
я здесь списывал credits с винила в тетрадь
Лейтенант! здесь еще не снесли тот гараж
где мы с Танькой впервые поймали кураж

а теперь наших внуков прессует ОМОН -
дети разных народов и разных племён
и в любом переулке, в любом тупике
говорят на каком-то чужом языке

Мы просрали свой город...
Со всех должностей
нами рулят бригады заезжих гостей.
это как гельминтоз или педикулёз
Мы просрали свой город, знакомый до слёз
(c)А. Елин


His old poems in music:

1987:

https://youtu.be/HZpouK9dDhg

2012:

https://youtu.be/tOJCDUuVFaQ

2014:

https://youtu.be/2vpj2EctgOs
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Old 02-12-2021, 03:31 PM
DKM
 
Location: California
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This will make you feel better. So good to see love for the great leader, and spontaneous!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsgIhvWdTjA
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