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I met forty somethings at Terlingua who can only speak broken English. Can't tell if that's the norm though.
Is it fair to compare these guys to other first generation groups though? The Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo was signed over a hundred and fifty years ago.
Probably need a bit more context. But if they've been migrant ranch hands in a rural area for 20 years, what opportunity is there to speak English? Regardless, I don't hold ill will towards them if they don't.
I'm an Upper Midwest German, and while both of my grandmothers were/are capable of conversational German, it pretty much died with their generation. There are plenty of obvious markers of that culture left, but absolutely everyone speaks English and very few people can speak conversational German here any more.
A lot of the younger Asians these days don't speak a lick of their parent's native tongue. English only.
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Could it have to do with the fact a lot of Vietnamese, Cambodian and Chinese Immigrants are refugees. Like you’re not going to fly the PRC flag if you’re family came here to flee the Communist Army, or if you were South Vietnamese same thing.
You very much have them embrace other aspects of their culture. Like most Chinatown’s have Arch’s and Chinese style molding etc.
I don't think this means you're unassimilated. Variety and diversity is not a bad thing, well I guess it is to the OP.
Probably need a bit more context. But if they've been migrant ranch hands in a rural area for 20 years, what opportunity is there to speak English? Regardless, I don't hold ill will towards them if they don't.
They were sitting at the table next to mine at a restaurant, and just wanted to be social. They were dressed more like locals hanging out than tourists, but as I said the language barrier prevented much in depth communication.
These guys, if they're from the area, aren't really immigrants in the sense that the border crossed them instead of the other way, so that might account for some of the difference. Native Hawaiians are probably in a similar situation. In any case the Florida and Texas based Spanish speaking groups in the poll seem a little behind schedule compared to the others when it comes to picking up English and not choice of sports teams and entertainment. Not that these things decide who's more or less 'American' but they're a part of it.
They were sitting at the table next to mine at a restaurant, and just wanted to be social. They were dressed more like locals hanging out than tourists, but as I said the language barrier prevented much in depth communication.
These guys, if they're from the area, aren't really immigrants in the sense that the border crossed them instead of the other way, so that might account for some of the difference. Native Hawaiians are probably in a similar situation. In any case the Florida and Texas based Spanish speaking groups in the poll seem a little behind schedule compared to the others when it comes to picking up English and not choice of sports teams and entertainment. Not that these things decide who's more or less 'American' but they're a part of it.
There are plenty of Mexican immigrants over there. Someone who grew up in Northern Mexico and moved to the RGV is still a Mexican national, that's different from someone who grew up in the RGV or elsewhere in South Texas.
There are plenty of Mexican immigrants over there. Someone who grew up in Northern Mexico and moved to the RGV is still a Mexican national, that's different from someone who grew up in the RGV or elsewhere in South Texas.
Exactly. There are Mexican immigrants in the RGV, and there are migrant farm workers there seasonally. But most of the resident people of Mexican heritage in the RGV are Tejano and the culture of the area is overwhelmingly Tejano. You'd be hard-pressed to find a Tejano who doesn't speak English, and thow who also speak Spanish, speak a Spanish with distinctive regional features.
Exactly. There are Mexican immigrants in the RGV, and there are migrant farm workers there seasonally. But most of the resident people of Mexican heritage in the RGV are Tejano and the culture of the area is overwhelmingly Tejano. You'd be hard-pressed to find a Tejano who doesn't speak English, and thow who also speak Spanish, speak a Spanish with distinctive regional features.
Education in that region is conducted in English, too.
I went ahead and point my vote and expressed my point of view. Now as a guy from South Florida who's never been to Rio Grande Valley what do you think makes Rio Grande Valley Mexicans less assimilated than Miami Cubans? Could Mexicans possible have a more imposing, unique culture? Truly I'm curious. Perhaps because because Mexicans in the region are much more numerous than Miami Cubans are in Southern Florida?
Now as a guy from South Florida who's never been to Rio Grande Valley what do you think makes Rio Grande Valley Mexicans less assimilated than Miami Cubans?
I guess I could say several of the groups listed fail to assimilate. I am curious though why am I included in this group in this day and age Boston Irish. I didn't know we didn't assimilate when we came to Boston. I guess some people must think we haven't. That's ok though I was just curious.
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