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In fact, it depends, depends on feelings and thoughts of people around you.
As to me, a decade ago homosexuality was acceptable even interesting, however, I hate it nowadays and deem it symptom or even crime.
I did not care one way or another. Live and let live. No one has the right to tell others how to live, but the more I see them evolve by their true nature, their aggressive intolerant, over the top look at me reminds me of disgusting oversexed perverts/sluts that don't belong in civil society.
I will stay as professional as possible if I have to deal with them, but that is where it ends for me.
Transgenders are freaks, they look like freaks, they are head cases right along with sex deviates, I don't feel the need to entertain their proclivities. And I won't regardless of what adjectives they want to hurl at me.
I think if they're putting on make-up and wearing a dress, odds are that they are in a transgendered state of mind. I don't think that gay women with traditionally masculine mannerisms necessarily think of themselves as being transgendered.
This is interesting... a guy in lipstick and a dress is a tranny, but a woman with a pair of socks in her BVD;s and a Mike's Hard Lemonade lunchbox is... not necessarily thinking that she is on the TG spectrum. Are you comfortable accepting this kind of... sexism.. on its face? You only help make the o.p.'s point if you believe that there is a limit to how much femininity is allowed a man before he is 'crossing over' but allow women who have done everything short of surgery to become men to still think of themselves as women.
My question remains, what is with all the cross behavior inherent in same sex attraction about anyway?! I mean... if you are a woman and you like women... why on earth go for women that look, sound and act exactly like John Goodman??? I mean... a guy who has no luck getting women could pretend to be a woman who has had a particularly successful FtM transition and BAM, money for nothing... chicks (lesbian chicks) for free! I'm not proud, I'd work that angle if things ever got desperate. What am I missing? Or is all this just too confusing?
I don't care if you dress like a woman, but, I'm guessing small minded people like yourself might have a problem with it.
you need not have called this person small minded but since you did, people who accept aberrant behavior as norm......you are not playing with a full deck.
But that is part of the point. Our dress code--except of "Dress-Down Fridays" is pretty much casual-professional. For example: I usually wear khakis; topsiders; and a button-down shirt or a polo-type shirt. Most of the women wear, well, what you would normally see a regular hetero woman wearing if she worked, say, as a receptionist at a doctor's or dentist's office. Or maybe the DMV.
Mickey is probably the sloppiest dressed person there. She abides by the dress code just barely.
What did HR (or the person in charge of the dress code) say when you reported her? The double standard doesn't exist if Mickey is meeting the dress code and nobody complains.
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Originally Posted by don1945
There have always been different rules when it comes to women vs men and women have been cut a lot more slack in so many areas where we would not do the same for a man. For example:
1) I have had women walk up behind me and pinch me or swat me on the butt, and we all chuckled, but if I had walked up behind a woman and done that I would have been taken to task for it.
2) Women think nothing of using the mens room in public places. At nightclubs it is very common for a woman to not want to wait in the long line going into the ladies room, so they will simply run into the mens room. Again, if I went into the womens room I would be tossed out on my ear or arrested.
So it should come as no surprise that lesbians can act masculine way with very little notice, but if a guy decided to dress feminine it would be a whole different matter.
Women really don't know how good they have it.
Don
Doing nothing is a problem. You can't complain about what might happen or would probably happen or what you imagine would happen ... when nothing actually happened. Say something so someone will do something.
This is interesting... a guy in lipstick and a dress is a tranny, but a woman with a pair of socks in her BVD;s and a Mike's Hard Lemonade lunchbox is... not necessarily thinking that she is on the TG spectrum.
Man, there are a lot of confused people on this thread. Who TF said anything about a pair of socks in her underwear?
Projections: It's not just for movie theaters anymore.
But I dispute the fact that a "man would be fired instantly for having a cheesecake calendar on the inside of the closet."
Why? As long as it is on the inside. In fact--a co-worker of mine has the same thing! LOL. Yeah--the Girls of Maxim Magazine--Swimsuit Issue. (And, yeah, I have caught Mickey sneaking peeks at it.)
And in the construction trades, or a blue-collar atmoshpere like a warehouse or a manufacturing plant or a steel mill, well hell: I would say such calendars are commonplace--I have even seen them in full view in a manager or supervisor's office.
It is all about what is appropriate for the given environment, I believe.
I love the mental imagery of the gay guys coming by (see what I did there?) to check-out the Beefcake.
As far as the acceptance of either a Beefcake or Cheesecake Calendar in a place of business: Hmm..tough one, but I would say the Cheesecake overall might have a slight edge in acceptance ration. This is because, women's lib movement and their increasing presence and impact in the workplace, it is still by and large a man's world insofar as business and industry are concerned.
You object to Mickey being visibly butch and flaunting her sexuality, yet believe cheesecake calendars belong at the workplace. Do you honestly not see the cognitive dissonance here?
I did not care one way or another. Live and let live. No one has the right to tell others how to live, but the more I see them evolve by their true nature, their aggressive intolerant, over the top look at me reminds me of disgusting oversexed perverts/sluts that don't belong in civil society.
Yep, it's definitely the gay people who are intolerant...
There are flamboyant people of all persuasions - gay, straight, black, white, male, female. They can be sexually flamboyant, rude, aggressive, prissy, whiny, sneezy, bitchy, itchy, xyzchy, whatever etc.
If the workplace says you cannot be these things, then it should be corrected.
I guess this is the OP's main complaint? If so, tell the boss, supervisor. Are there rules this person is breaking?
If it bothers you in general, just stay away from environments where you think you might run into this.
I laugh at my sister when she says she doesn't want to see this behavior - our other sister's son is gay. She doesn't want to see him with another guy. I laugh because this sister has very young grand children. Who knows what their orientation will be. I believe she thinks they tell you at the hospital when they hand you the baby - "oh, by the way, your baby is gay".
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