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Well, TK, our society would obviously not have reached the technological point it has today without the use of tools, would it have? If we were cavemen, we'd all be the ones using spears and slings to kill our prey, then blades to cut up the meat and take it home...you'd be the one sitting at the top of the hill waiting for the woolly mammoth to walk by so you could roll the boulder down on him, then tear the meat away with your bare hands
Some things can be accomplished without the use of tools. Many things cannot. <==PERIOD
Question, do we assume that's a "good thing"? Or was it much better before the advent of technology?
It means that if you're intelligent enough, you can figure out ways to accomplish the necessities of life without using any tools. You use your brain instead of an object.
Another fact that you conveniently keep ignoring, is that you are advocating for only the good guys to be disarmed. yeea yea, in your hypothetical Utopia, all firearms have been destroyed, and we have all gone to live in wikiups. Since that is about as likely to happen as peace in the Middle East and faster than light travel, lets speak of reality, shall we. No amount of restriction on private ownership of firearms is going to stop criminals from obtaining , and using them, for criminal purposes. There is no ridding the world of firearms, or criminals, so, the good guys are armed as well. Please, no pipe dreams and what ifs, get real. The world is what it is, and we all have to live in it. Continuing to use hypotheticals, and quite irrational and unrealistic ones at that, does nothing to change facts. People who have armed themselves, have made the choice to take the possibility of violent confrontation seriously, and intend to survive such an encounter.Being armed does not raise the odds of being killed with their own weapon, beyond the chance that they may be killed by a criminals own weapon. It does raise the odds of survival in an encounter with an armed criminal though.Fighting crime by shooting back is a time honored, and proven, method. If something works, a logical mind would lead one to use the method. Humans are dependent on technology. Several million years of using technology, and advancing said technology, is hard to argue with. It is a free country, however. At least for the moment. So, if a person desires to discard clothing, attempt (key word there) to not use tools and technology in their lives, and let their nails grow to be used for defensive weapons there is no law saying one can't. Good luck with that.
It means that if you're intelligent enough, you can figure out ways to accomplish the necessities of life without using any tools. You use your brain instead of an object.
An intelligent person uses the right tool for the right job.
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I guess your rights end when you're dead.
Yup. And while alive, Rights need to be protected or they will be lost. Look at what the PATRIOT Act did in eroding Rights, as well as domestic spying.
There are no "good guys". Man is a wolf to his fellow man.
Just out of curiosity, what does that make you? You are human, correct? Then you are a "wolf'? This makes absolutely no sense at all. To blithely state that all humans are hardwired, in some way, to be predatory to all of ones fellows, seems a bit extreme. There are certainly predatory humans, who look upon other humans as prey, but if this were the case, across the board, then we would have no sense of community at all. We would have no desire to protect the weak, defend the defensless etc. "No good guys" aye? From the perspective you have offered to substantiate your views, this statement would lead us to believe that you must be carrying around a heavy burden of self loathing, being as you have had the incredible bad luck to be born human,and are thus unable to change your predatory nature and behavior, though some divine spark keeps telling you that what you are is just wrong.....LMAO, your very humanity must feel like a prison to you. I have no such complicated feelings precluding me from taking measures to defend my family and myself. I don't see slavering predators behind every corner, but I do know that they exist, and have taken measures to survive an encounter with them. Now, if you will excuse me, I have to go and clean my white hat.
To "some" of his fellow man. Most people by far are good.
Not according to Thomas Hobbes. Man is inherently evil. Otherwise, if we all minded our own business, we wouldn't need laws, would we? Because if man was "good", if it was his nature to be "good", he would apply common sense and not bring harm to or exploit others.
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I have no such complicated feelings precluding me from taking measures to defend my family and myself. I don't see slavering predators behind every corner, but I do know that they exist, and have taken measures to survive an encounter with them. Now, if you will excuse me, I have to go and clean my white hat.
