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Westin not in trouble. Rhino Times typically blows things out of proportion. Particularly since this hotel will be in direct competition with owner of the Newspaper Roy Carroll. The paper defends all of Roy Carroll's projects despite the fact that his tower project was less viable than the Westin so there is a bias slant in the arricle.
The whole process has been messy but I don't see any legal issues at this point that can stop it because the issue at hand wasn't signed in the contract. It comes down to he said she said. Also too much work has already been done on the project. Buildings have been leveled, utility work is being done which is clearly not a sign of the city trying to back out. The developers have also received a building permit. But this has been one of the messiest developments I've seen in recent memory and I do think the city is more at fault for all this craziness than Rocky Scarfone.
Except the city and Scarfone had a deal worked out and now the city if backing out. Just because some work preparing for construction has been done doesn't mean that everything is guaranteed. Heck, there are projects all around the country that sometimes get stopped halfway (or further) through construction for various reasons. Norfolk still has a giant hole in the ground from construction on a giant 400 foot tower a decade ago that started and then suddenly halted due to a legal fight with the federal government (among other issues).
The Westin was already being pushed to the brink on deadlines. Also, while I understand the RHINO's bias, there seemed to be quite a scathing commentary in the article against the city too.
At this point, if I were a betting man, I would bet against the Westin being built (I was probably already less than 50/50 on it before).
Except the city and Scarfone had a deal worked out and now the city if backing out. Just because some work preparing for construction has been done doesn't mean that everything is guaranteed. Heck, there are projects all around the country that sometimes get stopped halfway (or further) through construction for various reasons. Norfolk still has a giant hole in the ground from construction on a giant 400 foot tower a decade ago that started and then suddenly halted due to a legal fight with the federal government (among other issues).
The Westin was already being pushed to the brink on deadlines. Also, while I understand the RHINO's bias, there seemed to be quite a scathing commentary in the article against the city too.
At this point, if I were a betting man, I would bet against the Westin being built (I was probably already less than 50/50 on it before).
I still think the article is making a mountain out of a mole Hill. I seriously doubt the situation will get to the point of stopping the project. Again you have to look at what was in the contract the city and Scarfone signed and it had nothing to do with what Scarfone wants to build.
Westin not in trouble. Rhino Times typically blows things out of proportion. Particularly since this hotel will be in direct competition with owner of the Newspaper Roy Carroll. The paper defends all of Roy Carroll's projects despite the fact that his tower project was less viable than the Westin so there is a bias slant in the arricle.
The whole process has been messy but I don't see any legal issues at this point that can stop it because the issue at hand wasn't signed in the contract. It comes down to he said she said. Also too much work has already been done on the project. Buildings have been leveled, utility work is being done which is clearly not a sign of the city trying to back out. The developers have also received a building permit. But this has been one of the messiest developments I've seen in recent memory and I do think the city is more at fault for all this craziness than Rocky Scarfone.
Actually:
"The signed agreement between Scarfone and the City of Greensboro states, “N Club may construct an additional structure on the property described in Exhibit A to this Agreement (up to three stories in height) to provide additional ‘back of house’ staging and access for the operations of N Club or its tenant (the ‘Green Room/Dressing Room’). All plans must be properly permitted, and construction must comply with requirements of applicable law. The City shall help facilitate prompt review of applications for and shall facilitate the prompt approval of building permits for the Green Room/Dressing Room.â€"
"The signed agreement between Scarfone and the City of Greensboro states, “N Club may construct an additional structure on the property described in Exhibit A to this Agreement (up to three stories in height) to provide additional ‘back of house’ staging and access for the operations of N Club or its tenant (the ‘Green Room/Dressing Room’). All plans must be properly permitted, and construction must comply with requirements of applicable law. The City shall help facilitate prompt review of applications for and shall facilitate the prompt approval of building permits for the Green Room/Dressing Room.”"
"The question for the court to decide, if it ever goes to court, is whose fault is that. at the time of the agreement, the city, which issues building permits, indicated that it was deeding Scarfone enough land for a three-story dressing room and now the city is stating that it did not.
Athough the agreement has been signed by both parties, some of the documentation regarding the easements and the green room have not"
"The question for the court to decide, if it ever goes to court, is whose fault is that. at the time of the agreement, the city, which issues building permits, indicated that it was deeding Scarfone enough land for a three-story dressing room and now the city is stating that it did not.
Athough the agreement has been signed by both parties, some of the documentation regarding the easements and the green room have not"
LOL, so you admit the agreement WAS signed, in direct contradiction to your earlier statement. Good for you. The truth shall set you free!
LOL, so you admit the agreement WAS signed, in direct contradiction to your earlier statement. Good for you. The truth shall set you free!
I didn't say the agreement wasn't signed... see you didn't read because you are too busy trying to contradict me lol. I highlighted that some of the documentation regarding the 3 story green room was NOT signed. I mistated a little but what was highlighted in my post was what I said. If documentation regarding the green room was not signed that could present a challenge for Rocky Scarfone.
I didn't say the agreement wasn't signed... see you didn't read because you are too busy trying to contradict me lol. I highlighted that some of the documentation regarding the 3 story green room was NOT signed. I mistated a little but what was highlighted in my post was what I said. If documentation regarding the green room was not signed that could present a challenge for Rocky Scarfone.
Thats some mighty fancy back pedaling you have going on there...
The fact is, there is a signed agreement giving Scarfone the right to build a 3 story green room.
Thats some mighty fancy back pedaling you have going on there...
The fact is, there is a signed agreement giving Scarfone the right to build a 3 story green room.
No back pedaling. You said I said they didn't sign a contract and that's not true. But there a parts about this 3 story green room that was not signed. Regardless this is not going to be some big issue that's going to stop the Westin from being built..
No back pedaling. You said I said they didn't sign a contract and that's not true. But there a parts about this 3 story green room that was not signed. Regardless this is not going to be some big issue that's going to stop the Westin from being built..
Just stop. The parties signed an agreement in which the city gives Scarfone the right to build the green room.
That is a fact. You can play semantics all you want, but that changes nothing.
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