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I don't particularly like safes ,they are a magnet of attention I don't need .
In the old days guys showed off their guns and safes but word got around and thieves find out and before you know it they have formulated a plan, and acquire the safe one way or another.
IMO a secret room is more appropriate or secret cabinet .
There are plans on the internet, and one can use their own imagination .
You can put your safe in there and other valuable as well . I store my emergency food in mine. .
Some folks make safe rooms with secret passage ways and secure doors as well .
This of course takes millions of dollars, and an advanced training in rocket science, so probably not many of you are capable of such tasks .
Kidding if course.
Even if you are renting this can still be done .
Imagination and some carpentry skills is all that's required.
1. Nothing always is the perfect solution: be it guns, knives, baseball bats, machetes, and so on. But it does not mean that you can't be safe and ready. Where do you get the idea that you can't be both safe and ready?
2. Today's automobiles are quite safe, even at high speed. If you are a good driver, you already know how to maintain safety regardless of speed, since you know yours and the automobile's limitations. If you are a bad driver, then you are an unsafe one, regardless of how fast or how slow you drive.
If you are an unsafe person, then you should stay away from things on #1 above
Look, I'm just the messenger. I'm not here to preach to anybody. If you have a problem with gun safety, take it to the people who came up with it.
If you disagree with the safety rule that says you have to store your gun and ammo separately, that's your choice. All I'm saying is, if you decide to ignore this safety rule, fine, just be honest to yourself about what you're doing.
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Safe from what? What EXACTLY is the danger these rules you keep quoting so dogmatically are protecting against?
If the answer to your question is not glaringly obvious to you, then you probably have no business owning a gun.
But hey, it's a free country; and I have no interest educating people on this thread about gun safety. If you want to learn more, you can explore it on your own.
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This is exhibit A1 from someone who thinks they know all about Gun Safety because they read some one else's opinion on a piece of paper.
I keep my (loaded) gun close to me at night and within easy reach in the daytime, when I am home. That's why I have one. The others are a collection, and again, within easy reach along with the ammo. You can keep your where you like, and in my house I keep them where I like. The only person they are a "Danger" to, is anyone that comes in my house uninvited.
In other words, you know better than the Attorney General and the gun manufacturers.
There is not always wrong to have loaded guns laying around the house. All depends. For example, if you live alone, or don't have children and others around you house, there is nothing wrong with loaded guns.
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To the OP:
While I have taken hunting gun safety classes, I did so only because these were required by F&G, not because I needed the training. A training class is not always going to make you a safer person.
Agree and agree!!
While I've only had training when it was 'required' (F&G) -- experience, or practice, and informal training from those 'in the know', is what made me comfortable around guns, and I highly regard that.
Kind of like owning a snake - can be a real problem unless you know how to handle it (very!) properly.
I assume all guns are loaded - and all snakes bite (until I absolutely know otherwise).
The answer to your question should be common sense. I'm sure you can figure out why.
The first step to being a safe gun owner is actually practicing gun safety; simple right?
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You failed to answer my question or anyone else who has responded to your post.
Please answer;
1. What is unsafe about having a loaded gun. Does it jump up and start shooting on its own? Past reasons like having kids, leaving it unattended out in the open while not at home, etc, please explain the logic that a person should not have a loaded gun within access while at home.
2. Please explain why ammo and guns need to be kept separate. Considering the military does not do this, neither do gun stores, police (maybe some do? but none I have experienced), do not keep guns and ammo separate, please then tell me what is dangerous about it. Right there in the safe with the M9s were the magazines and the ammo to load into them for each shift, and even more ammo in ammo boxes with lead seals on them. Checked that stuff in and out for my shift for two years, it was not my imagination. On my ship, some thing, and at three other bases it was the same thing.
In the military, I went a lot of firearms training starting with boot camp, firearm qualifications, and later on as an SRO and armorer. I worked with firearms nearly every day for three straight years, storing, issuing, cleaning, inventorying, ordering, fixing, training, etc. So I am curious what experience you have, where it came from, and to answer the questions with something other than "should be common sense", which is the answer of someone who does not know anything.
I've taken 100+ hours of advanced firearms training both in the military and civilian firearms schools. I hold qualifications with the shotgun, rifle, handgun in the military and hold a "Master" ranking with the defensive handgun for a civilian firearms school.
In other words, you know better than the Attorney General and the gun manufacturers.
Ok.
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Oh please, let's have some common sense here. Guns are a hot button political issue these days. Do you really expect a politician to put up anything that does not either parrot his party's line or placate the public firebrands.
Gun manufacturers are also affected by the political climate, plus real and perceived liability and public perception issues. Their positions are strictly ruled by their self interests, nothing else.
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