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Old 03-22-2020, 10:16 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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"But experts believe that the United States still isn’t testing enough people to detect the outbreak’s true spread. The virologist Trevor Bedford has found evidence that the coronavirus began spreading in the United States in January."

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...bruary/608521/

Methinks this is way more widespread and mild than the extremely limited tests suggest.
From your link, Bedford thinks the virus arrived in WA state in mid Jan. That still means people who thought they had it in December or earlier are very unlikely to.

It is so widespread now that testing for the sake of testing would only be an academic exercise. We can assume it is everywhere.
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Old 03-22-2020, 10:46 PM
 
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Not yet. Those studies will take months to years to complete.

However, antibodies to SARS-CoV-1 have been found to persist for some time.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...386v1.full.pdf

"Anti SARS-CoV IgG was found to persist for up to 12 years. IgG titers typically peaked in 2004,
declining rapidly from 2004-2006, and then continued to decline at a slower rate. IgG titers in SARS-CoV-infected healthcare workers remained at a significantly high level until 2015."

and antibodies to MERS were completely absent just 10 months after the fact in less severe cases.



So we just don't know.
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Old 03-23-2020, 12:22 AM
 
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I woke up coughing around midnight and freaked myself out so much I can't get back to sleep. It stopped almost immediately, and I've been fine ever since. I might take my temperature later just in case. Truthfully, I'm probably just anxious about working from home starting today....

I did have a cold the last week of February, but it wasn't enough to slow me down much. The husband got the flu at the same time, he had a fever and was knocked out for the week. Was it CV-19? Probably not as we were on vacation with 7 other people who did not get sick.
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Old 03-23-2020, 07:31 AM
 
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My husband was in the hospital february 13 to 18 with an upper respiratory infection. He had both an x-ray and an MRI[actually several] and when they did a flu test, he did not have this years flu [we did have vacines] but they said he did test positive for the 2009 flu [swine flu, not included in this years vacine because too rare nowadays]

Now, this was before we knew what Coronavirus looks like on lungs. I am fairly certain that it was just complications from the flu, but there is a part of me that wonders.
I was ill those exact days... but coughed for almost a full month later. Ran a high fever from the 13th-16th.. felt like crap the 17th and half way ok the 18th.. it was t until three weeks later that i felt normal. I had the sore throat, vomiting, coughing (bringing up mucous brown to clear), chest tightness, and diarrhea. Self medicated with cetamol, Guaifenesin and plenty of fluids.

A few family members, adults, not kids, got the same thing. Their flu tests were negative; i wasn’t tested.
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Old 03-23-2020, 08:00 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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"But experts believe that the United States still isn’t testing enough people to detect the outbreak’s true spread. The virologist Trevor Bedford has found evidence that the coronavirus began spreading in the United States in January."

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...bruary/608521/

Methinks this is way more widespread and mild than the extremely limited tests suggest.
I happen to think you hit the nail on the head. I suspect at least in my area almost everyone has been exposed, and few seem to be sick.
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From your link, Bedford thinks the virus arrived in WA state in mid Jan. That still means people who thought they had it in December or earlier are very unlikely to.

It is so widespread now that testing for the sake of testing would only be an academic exercise. We can assume it is everywhere.
Exactly. I think you have this 100% right. To me the solution is to gun out any medication that seems effective, such as the malarial drug, ramp up ventilator production and distribution, and get the country back to work!
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Old 03-23-2020, 08:28 AM
 
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I happen to think you hit the nail on the head. I suspect at least in my area almost everyone has been exposed, and few seem to be sick.Exactly.

More misinformation. Your area is listed as New York, and they are only testing people with symptoms. Nearly 17,000 people have tested positive, meaning they have symptoms caused by the virus. That's a lot more than "few".



Your suspicion about how many have actually been exposed means nothing. Pandemics or any illnesses are not managed based on the suspicions of random uninformed people.



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One of you folks that claim to have had covid-19 should be tested. I believe if you had it, the presence of anti-bodies would prove it.

No, as I said already, it wouldn't prove when they had it. They could have had it much later, you know, after it was actually present.



This thread of constant misinformation mislabeled as "the real story" needs to be closed.
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Old 03-23-2020, 09:39 AM
 
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Who knows? They're still not testing a lot of people. I know a half dozen people who currently have all the symptoms, and each one was told to stay home. They wouldn't test them because they are relatively young. Just not enough tests still

I'm in Texas, yesterday our governor almost bragged about how they have now tested about 15,000 people, like that was a good thing. Italy was testing 10,000 PER DAY. But, yeah, 15,000 in 2 months...that's just testing like gangbusters!
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Old 03-23-2020, 01:27 PM
 
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From your link, Bedford thinks the virus arrived in WA state in mid Jan. That still means people who thought they had it in December or earlier are very unlikely to.

It is so widespread now that testing for the sake of testing would only be an academic exercise. We can assume it is everywhere.
Yes - December is too early according to the genetic analysis. But it's so contagious that anyone who got sick in January might have had it. And I think we still need to test people so we will have subjects to test treatments on.
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Old 03-23-2020, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Coastal Connecticut
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More misinformation. Your area is listed as New York, and they are only testing people with symptoms. Nearly 17,000 people have tested positive, meaning they have symptoms caused by the virus. That's a lot more than "few".



Your suspicion about how many have actually been exposed means nothing. Pandemics or any illnesses are not managed based on the suspicions of random uninformed people.
There's a backlog on tests because everything is delayed a week or 2 before showing symptoms. Those tested tended to be more severe. They are not testing people who seem like they just have a minor cold, which statistically is most people that contract it.

Iceland tested a random 1,800 people with no symptoms and 1% were positive.

1% of the population of NYC is 86,000.

Just watch. I wish there was a "remind me" button on here.
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Old 03-23-2020, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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"But experts believe that the United States still isn’t testing enough people to detect the outbreak’s true spread. The virologist Trevor Bedford has found evidence that the coronavirus began spreading in the United States in January."

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...bruary/608521/

Methinks this is way more widespread and mild than the extremely limited tests suggest.
"The Atlantic" is not a scientific journal. Of all the mass-media that run articles like this, IMO, they're among the worst for just not getting it. The authors are "specialists" in climate change.
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