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The best time I ever had there was in January right after New Year's.
The weather was great! Not SO HOT like it is in the summer.
It wasn't so crowded. There were families with children there, but not so many. They were overwhelmingly people from the southern hemisphere (South America, Australia, etc.) where it is "summer" instead of "winter" and the kids are off.
I quote the Wilderness Lodge (my family's favorite on property hotel) high season -- that's crazy. We have gone in early February and the cost was much less, crowds smaller, and warm enough for the pool. Same observation re: southern hemisphere guests.
We drove down 2x and incorporated a visit to my family. It was a long while ago when WDW passes were on Amex rewards. I was able to get 4 (2 adult and 2 child) 7 day hopper passes (with no expiration date!) with my points. I was able to book our room for the last day of off/low season and get the rate through the stay 4-5 days, depended on trip.) WDW has since done away with that. We bought the meal plan once. Big waste. It felt like we were planning our activities around meal reservations.
So just thinking, what would it take Nassau and Suffolk to get moving? Should Suffolk think East and come up with it's own plans given it still has quite a bit of available space to build what it needs (airport(with budget carriers), expansion of a town or two for business and housing, a medium size sporting/entertainment venue, etc) and still keep the things that make it Sufflok. Maybe it's time for Suffolk to start thinking outside the NYC/Nassau box.
This is pure fantasy but doesn't hurt.
Could this work for a central area of Suffolk? Maybe Happaugue?
So just thinking, what would it take Nassau and Suffolk to get moving? Should Suffolk think East and come up with it's own plans given it still has quite a bit of available space to build what it needs (airport(with budget carriers), expansion of a town or two for business and housing, a medium size sporting/entertainment venue, etc) and still keep the things that make it Sufflok. Maybe it's time for Suffolk to start thinking outside the NYC/Nassau box.
This is pure fantasy but doesn't hurt.
Suffolks shot the politicians in brookaven suck such as kathy walsh and connie kepert riverheads not even worth going to anymore after about the 3rd strip mall goes up i know brookhaven dosin't have much to do with the east end but they started this trend of generic building and its been pushed east.
Never heard of that one, need to check it out. Anyone ever go to Dutch Wonderland? I keep hearing its great for young kids.
It is!!! We've been there a few times, combined with trips to the Strasburg Railroad (in the Thomas the Tank Engine phase, we did the Day out with Thomas - they do a great job there).
D.W. is a great park for little kids. Definitely worth a trip.
So just thinking, what would it take Nassau and Suffolk to get moving? Should Suffolk think East and come up with it's own plans given it still has quite a bit of available space to build what it needs (airport(with budget carriers), expansion of a town or two for business and housing, a medium size sporting/entertainment venue, etc) and still keep the things that make it Sufflok. Maybe it's time for Suffolk to start thinking outside the NYC/Nassau box.
This is pure fantasy but doesn't hurt.
Could this work for a central area of Suffolk? Maybe Happaugue?
The only pitfall being that Suffolk needs alternate ways off LI in order to develop its own businesses and identity apart from being tethered to NYC by roads and bridges. A bridge or tunnel + HSR between Suffolk and CT would be a game changer for us.
So just thinking, what would it take Nassau and Suffolk to get moving? Should Suffolk think East and come up with it's own plans given it still has quite a bit of available space to build what it needs (airport(with budget carriers), expansion of a town or two for business and housing, a medium size sporting/entertainment venue, etc) and still keep the things that make it Sufflok. Maybe it's time for Suffolk to start thinking outside the NYC/Nassau box.
This is pure fantasy but doesn't hurt.
Could this work for a central area of Suffolk? Maybe Happaugue?
You need to encourage new business, possibly attracting very nascent buinesses, start-ups, to the area. There's little chance you'll see many established businesses migrating to LI, given the systemic economic ills facing us today. In fact, the several large corps left on LI require huge concessions from state and local governments to stay put.
Interestingly, start-up meccas like NYC, Silicon Valley, even Boulder are not exactly the lowest cost areas. But they have momentum in that one startup begets another. Founders from an earlier venture move on to their next. They already know the whos and hows of attaining capital. This is what builds the economic engine and business ecosystem.
These areas also have high populations of educated young people and we know LI is not good at retaining our young adults, which is one of the big issues around here. Whether it's cultural or the high cost of living chases them out, without this group, our region will never experience the kind of growth and economic stability of these other regions.
Did you know there are a couple of Technology incubators on LI? They're not well publicized and the capital and resource availability seems to be well guarded. So much for that idea.
IMO, there are three clear-cut measures that should kick-off a period of some growth, of some degree of economic revitalization: (1) lower property taxes, (2) reduce energy costs and (3) build a modern infrastructure, from power grids, communications and transportation. Of course, how realistic are any of these ideals given the leadership and the fact that State, County and local government budgets are pointing to 'E'?
Think about where LI is today and where it'll need be to tomorrow just for economic survival.
But I would think there is business that does't need that. After all Manhattan is an island with a lot less land that is attracting tech startups. If the bridge isn't likely then Suffolk needs to think around that obstacle.
(3) build a modern infrastructure, from power grids, communications and transportation.
This is the #1 thing that needs to be settled, above all else. There is absolutely no way modern enterprises will move to LI with business infrastructure that is inferior to developing countries. Coincidentally, many of these developing countries like Indonesia, Philippines, Colombia and Peru are now booming when they upgraded their business infrastructure.
Although all requirements are probably inter-related. Anecdotally, I wanted to recommend business associates to put up co-work spaces in the office parks of LI (and Westchester) but hesitated when Sandy took out power for 2 weeks. No matter how much lower the rent, there is no way hedge funds, advisory firms and other knowledge companies can accept power being out for even a few days.
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Look at Ben & Jerry as well as Vermont Roasters Coffe. Both buisnesses are base in Vermont in locations that are far from easily accessable to the bulk of the USA.
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