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Old 07-12-2018, 03:13 PM
 
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You're quite the historian.

US History was my undergraduate major, and I taught that subject for many years before attending graduate school and moving-on to other disciplines. Thank you for noticing.
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Old 07-12-2018, 04:08 PM
 
Location: South Jersey
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The Haddonfield/CH/Mt. Laurel resident visiting Vineland would feel like he/she is in New Castle, DE except that the demographic is more non White Hispanic than Black. He or she won't find the nicer establishments in the visited area compared to near home. The suburban Philadelphia section of South Jersey is more in common with Central NJ than the other areas mentioned within South Jersey, with exception of maybe Atlantic County. You live in a transition area to the deep/rural part of NJ, which is going to make Mercer County up to South Brunswick much farther for you, than someone from Cherry Hill or Mt. Laurel.

And, you delineate South Jersey into four, but Central NJ doesn't exist and it's all North Jersey.
Except I never claimed that North Jersey was monolithic. Quite the contrary. I would only contend that it's all North Jersey (to us, in South Jersey). There would be even greater culture shock than in your example for a hypothetical Newark resident who travels to the backwoods of Sussex County. But it doesn't change the fact that it's all North Jersey.

The South Jersey suburbs of Philadelphia are only superficially similar to areas of NJ further north (sidestepping whether they are "Central" or "North" Jersey)--e.g., roundabouts, traffic, etc. This is not a matter of whether a place is more rural or suburban. There are deeper cultural differences.

South Brunswick is not really on many people's radar in the areas off exits 3 or 4 of the Turnpike. It's all about Philadelphia, the Shore, etc. You do get some people who commute between that area and what you would call Central Jersey, but it's not a very large number, and hardly justifies your position.
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Old 07-12-2018, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic
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I hope they bring cookies when they visit. No raisins.
Chocolate chips are OK, though.
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Old 07-12-2018, 04:30 PM
 
Location: Durham NC
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Generally this.

Though I bet Union County would be debated here. I've heard arguments both ways for Union County, and don't have a strong opinion myself.

I also know people who would dispute Monmouth and Mercer.
This map is pretty close for me save Union. That's North Jersey.
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Old 07-12-2018, 04:32 PM
 
Location: Durham NC
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Nice little picture, BUT. Two issues with it:

1. NO WAY Jersey Shore goes that far inland. Red Bank, yes. That map too far in...

2. Union County should not be included in Central NJ.

Rahway, Avenel, Iselin southernmost points of NNJ. Woodbridge and Edison Northernmost points of CNJ.
Right. That puts Jersey Shore way too far west.
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Old 07-12-2018, 04:39 PM
 
Location: Bergen County, NJ
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Chocolate chips are OK, though.
There is no better cookie than the oatmeal raisin cookie. I had a lot of respect for jaymoney, but after that comment I don’t know anymore.
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Old 07-12-2018, 06:48 PM
 
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There is no better cookie than the oatmeal raisin cookie. I had a lot of respect for jaymoney, but after that comment I don’t know anymore.
I'm on your team, man.

I was born in Hudson County NJ.
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Old 07-12-2018, 07:34 PM
 
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When you look at the map, 195 runs right down the middle. Perhaps any county that highway goes through could be considered central. Everything above, north. Below, south.
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Old 07-12-2018, 07:51 PM
 
Location: D.C. / I-95
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Union County as Central Jersey is complete nonsense. That’s not even debatable. Also, I think the upper half of Ocean is Central...Toms River, Lakewood, and Seaside Heights do not feel South at all to me.

I’d nitpick by giving very small slivers of Burlington near Trenton and Warren from Phillpsburg down to Central, and upper Middlesex above the Raritan River to North.
parts of Union County are absolutely Central Jersey.
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Old 07-12-2018, 08:32 PM
 
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There is no better cookie than the oatmeal raisin cookie. I had a lot of respect for jaymoney, but after that comment I don’t know anymore.
Raisins are fool's chocolate, be forewarned, be prepared!
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