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Old 09-03-2017, 05:54 PM
 
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Bushwick started gentrifying about 10 years ago, give or take. It still has a loooong ways to go.

Certain areas in Bushwick are quite nice and highly gentrified but most of what I've seen, it's still quite grimy and most of the residents are still native.
It seems like the Western portion of it will be Williamsburg 2.0 within 10 years, if that. At any rate, the neighborhood is already getting expensive and is obviously gentrifying pretty rapidly. But its geographic location of course, is more desirable than that of the South Bronx.

And I don't know if I'd say the residents are mostly native, many of the neighborhood's residents were not born in the US.
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Old 09-03-2017, 06:01 PM
 
Location: Mott Haven, New York
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Old 09-03-2017, 06:50 PM
 
Location: Parkchester.
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Bronx? Really? I have friends up there that I visit occasionally and it's still as ghetto as ever.

Lots of other areas need to fully gentrify before the Bronx even starts (Harlem, crown heights, Jackson heights, etc.)
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Old 09-03-2017, 07:08 PM
 
Location: Northeast states
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Harlem, East Harlem, Washington Heights, Jamaica will gentrified before The Bronx. The Bronx waterfront area is in pre gentrification mode
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Old 09-03-2017, 07:15 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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Bronx? Really? I have friends up there that I visit occasionally and it's still as ghetto as ever.

Lots of other areas need to fully gentrify before the Bronx even starts (Harlem, crown heights, Jackson heights, etc.)
Why would so many other areas *need to gentrify* before parts of the Bronx that may be closer to job centers?
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Old 09-03-2017, 09:48 PM
 
Location: Parkchester.
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What job center is the Bronx close to? If the answer is Manhattan, then wouldn't Harlem be closer?
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Old 09-03-2017, 09:57 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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What job center is the Bronx close to? If the answer is Manhattan, then wouldn't Harlem be closer?
Yea, it's not closer or more accessible to major job centers than Harlem, Crown Heights, or Jackson Heights. The South Bronx is more in the tier of East New York and Flatbush. However, this doesn't mean the South Bronx can't be currently gentrifying as East New York and Flatbush currently are, only that it's in an earlier stage of doing so and it has certainly been gentrifying in the past several years. Those other places don't need to be completely gentrified for the process to be ongoing in the South Bronx.

I think it'll do so at a pretty gradual rate in years to come with a slight bump after the first phase of Penn Station Access.



I'd hope that the desire to make those stops more like rapid transit stops means that MTA figures out a decent in-city fare for commuter rail that can be more easily done with the move to rfid fare cards. Of course, all that is still years away.

There's also the Soundview ferry coming next year, but the capacity is going to be pretty small.

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Old 09-03-2017, 10:11 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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What job center is the Bronx close to? If the answer is Manhattan then wouldn't Harlem be closer?
Areas like Mott Haven are *one subway* stop away from Harlem, so don't need all of the South Bronx to gentrify. Also have parts by Yankee stadium that are two or three stops from Manhattan by subway and just two stops to Grand Central on Metro North. Much faster than coming from East New York, and likely safer too since the courthouses are nearby.

Those who aren't ignorant about the Bronx will take advantage of certain areas. East New York is much worse crime wise than certain parts of the Bronx.
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Old 09-04-2017, 09:21 PM
 
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Bronx? Really? I have friends up there that I visit occasionally and it's still as ghetto as ever.

Lots of other areas need to fully gentrify before the Bronx even starts (Harlem, crown heights, Jackson heights, etc.)
Other areas don't need to gentrify fully first. The (south) Bronx gentrifying makes geographic sense since Harlem is becoming more expensive and a destination in itself with bars, restaurants, and night life. It's logical that people would move one or two stops north for better prices on rent and real estate. They are a quick train or Uber to the Harlem nightlife and within the coveted 30 minute window to work in midtown.
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Old 09-04-2017, 09:42 PM
 
Location: Bronx
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Harlem, East Harlem, Washington Heights, Jamaica will gentrified before The Bronx. The Bronx waterfront area is in pre gentrification mode
Instead of using the Bronx. Can you be more specific about what Bronx neighborhoods will see gentrification after the former names you mentioned of above non Bronx neighborhoods.
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