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Areas like Mott Haven are *one subway* stop away from Harlem, so don't need all of the South Bronx to gentrify. Also have parts by Yankee stadium that are two or three stops from Manhattan by subway and just two stops to Grand Central on Metro North. Much faster than coming from East New York, and likely safer too since the courthouses are nearby.
Those who aren't ignorant about the Bronx will take advantage of certain areas. East New York is much worse crime wise than certain parts of the Bronx.
But not all areas gentrify based on geographical proximity to Manhattan. Park Slope gentrified far before Williamsburg for example. Astoria before LIC. There is that waterfront area between Greenpoint and LIC. No transportation at all, yet it's filled with high end housing. And Red Hook? Who'd a thunk that? It takes forever to get there without a car.
But not all areas gentrify based on geographical proximity to Manhattan. Park Slope gentrified far before Williamsburg for example. Astoria before LIC. There is that waterfront area between Greenpoint and LIC. No transportation at all, yet it's filled with high end housing. And Red Hook? Who'd a thunk that? It takes forever to get there without a car.
Yes, but Red Hook will be getting ferry service soon. It depends on a lot of things, but proximity to Manhattan sure as hell helps.
Am thinking this whole Bronx gentrification thing is overblown. Yes, some people moving there, but most areas are still as ghetto as ever.
Every time I get wind of how crazy an area of the Bronx is, I go to take a look. Every time, I'm disappointed by how run down the supposed 'up and coming' area is.
It's already happening, the real estate sharks are following the middle class like cockroaches.
They even set their foot in places like East NY. Let's face it, whatever the city invest into the people is simply an undercover investment for some rich real estate developers, some might even be funded by some foreign money launderers. If there's one thing for sure, they're mainly interested in places that are near a reliable transportation source.
I'm one who said the Bronx won't be gentrified anytime soon, and I stand by what I said. It's gonna take at least 20 years. You're starting to see little spurts of positive gains like the demolition and construction of buildings in Port Morris, and Moot Haven. Melrose seems to be moving along, Morrisania a little bit but nothing to start a 'Here Go, South Bronx Come' thread about. Now East Harlem on the other hand. Watch the fu** out. And I HATE the neighborhood but again, for the millionth time, the moment when East Harlem gentrifies the South Bronx will.
I'm one who said the Bronx won't be gentrified anytime soon, and I stand by what I said. It's gonna take at least 20 years. You're starting to see little spurts of positive gains like the demolition and construction of buildings in Port Morris, and Moot Haven. Melrose seems to be moving along, Morrisania a little bit but nothing to start a 'Here Go, South Bronx Come' thread about. Now East Harlem on the other hand. Watch the fu** out. And I HATE the neighborhood but again, for the millionth time, the moment when East Harlem gentrifies the South Bronx will.
But South Bronx property values have already been going up substantially
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