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Has there been an organization that's actually pushed for a cap on the Cross Bronx? That sounds great--if you've got links, please share them.
I think in terms of transit for that area, it's either hold one's breath for the second avenue expansion to have finished and then have it turn towards expanding into the Bronx or having MTA get its commuter rail operations to be better integrated such that there's more frequent and better integrated fare for the Metro-North trunk that runs through the area and an additional stop between Melrose and Fordham.
What other *additional* stop do you want to add? There's already one. It's called *Tremont*. Cannot run the thing like it's a subway. Metro North first and foremost provides service for the *suburban* communities that lack subway service which is why areas like Riverdale get more frequent service than say Melrose or Tremont. Thinking is, the residents have access to the subway.
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I worry about the raccoons and possums more than getting robbed personally. LoL
Yes, but if walking in well-lit areas, the things usually will scurry away from you rather than towards you. Years ago, remember walking home late at night and seeing what looked like a giant rat. Looked further and realized the thing was a possum. Incredibly *ugly* with a long tail. Started to scurry when I went to approach it, then remained still, then scurried again, looking back to see if I would follow. Found the thing interesting, seeing as I hadn't seen one before in person, and have lived in areas outside of the city before. Have seen raccoons before. Years ago, had a suite mate that went camping or whatever with his girlfriend and he was sprayed by a skunk. The guy stunk for *weeks* and could not get rid of the smell. Kept my door closed every time he was around since you knew he was present because of the smell.
Listen, can find numerous neighborhoods that are *sketchy*, but not worth risking your life for a few dollars. Better to take a chance on something else.
This is more than a few dollars. People who bought in Hamilton Heights, other parts of Harlem, LIC, Williamsburg in the 90s had fantastic returns on their investment. These were people who ignored the supposed convention wisdom of New Yorkers, much of which is just plain bigotry.
In a world full of terrorists and hurricanes one could die at any moment. You have an irrational fear of street crime.
You say it's too risky too live in a neighborhood with poor minorities, but you live a city that could get with by a terrorist attack or major hurricane.
This is more than a few dollars. People who bought in Hamilton Heights, other parts of Harlem, LIC, Williamsburg in the 90s had fantastic returns on their investment. These were people who ignored the supposed convention wisdom of New Yorkers, much of which is just plain bigotry.
In a world full of terrorists and hurricanes one could die at any moment. You have an irrational fear of street crime.
You say it's too risky too live in a neighborhood with poor minorities, but you live a city that could get with by a terrorist attack or major hurricane.
Oh I dunno about that. Never heard of a bullet avoiding someone because of *bigotry*. Would buy as an investment property or whatever, but why risk your safety to save a few bucks? Never said *it's too risky too live in a neighborhood with poor minorities*. Am thinking you have a reading comprehension problem. *Will repeat*: Can take a chance on a sketchy area but not a dangerous one.
What other *additional* stop do you want to add? There's already one. It's called *Tremont*. Cannot run the thing like it's a subway. Metro North first and foremost provides service for the *suburban* communities that lack subway service which is why areas like Riverdale get more frequent service than say Melrose or Tremont. Thinking is, the residents have access to the subway.
Smack your head harder, I revised it as Tremont as I misremembered the stations. The service pattern I'm talking about is what's called Regional Express Rail or S-Bahn services in other countries. There's no particular name for it in Japan, but it has the same kind of service. It's basically where you work on extending multiple branches out far into the metropolitan area and then have them interlined in areas of high density so that they serve as rapid transit systems. It's a lot more efficient as a service overall and basically better utilizes existing infrastructure.
NYC has a massive number of old rail right-of-ways and areas to potentially add service--the larger issue is that the system still uses stub track'ed terminal ends in the core, but even with that the current slate of projects make it possible for rapid transit-like service in the Bronx. There's the East Side Access which means another East River crossing route and berths for LIRR which then clears up space at Penn Station tracks for non-Hudson crossing trains which is why there's the follow up Penn Station Access plan:
The New Haven lines are trying to add more services. Routing to Penn Station means that more berths are opened up at Grand Central. The new Tappan Zee has the ability to handle commuter rail lines so that there's service connection West of the Hudson. Of these, the last one is the only one that has no real commitment save for having built the bridge to be capable of handling trains, but the Hudson Line which would take that isn't going through the tracks between Melrose and Fordham.
If these all go through, then why wouldn't this be a good use of the infrastructure, especially since the portion there is four-tracked? It'd be a lot cheaper and can come around a lot faster than waiting for the second avenue subway phases to finish and then try to get it expanded into the Bronx while it's about two to three short blocks away from Third Avenue.
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Oh I dunno about that. Never heard of a bullet avoiding someone because of *bigotry*. Would buy as an investment property or whatever, but why risk your safety to save a few bucks? Never said *it's too risky too live in a neighborhood with poor minorities*. Am thinking you have a reading comprehension. *Will repeat*: Can take a chance on a sketchy area but not a dangerous one.
South Bronx is full of poor minorities and that's the real reason you think it's so terrible living there.
Smack your head harder, I revised it as Tremont as I misremembered the stations. The service pattern I'm talking about is what's called Regional Express Rail or S-Bahn services in other countries. There's no particular name for it in Japan, but it has the same kind of service. It's basically where you work on extending multiple branches out far into the metropolitan area and then have them interlined in areas of high density so that they serve as rapid transit systems. It's a lot more efficient as a service overall and basically better utilizes existing infrastructure.
NYC has a massive number of old rail right-of-ways and areas to potentially add service--the larger issue is that the system still uses stub track'ed terminal ends in the core, but even with that the current slate of projects make it possible for rapid transit-like service in the Bronx. There's the East Side Access which means another East River crossing route and berths for LIRR which then clears up space at Penn Station tracks for non-Hudson crossing trains which is why there's the follow up Penn Station Access plan:
The New Haven lines are trying to add more services. Routing to Penn Station means that more berths are opened up at Grand Central. The new Tappan Zee has the ability to handle commuter rail lines so that there's service connection West of the Hudson. Of these, the last one is the only one that has no real commitment save for having built the bridge to be capable of handling trains.
If these all go through, then why wouldn't this be a good use of the infrastructure, especially since the portion there is four-tracked? It'd be a lot cheaper and can come around a lot faster than waiting for the second avenue subway phases to finish and then try to get it expanded into the Bronx while it's about two to three short blocks away from Third Avenue.
Similarly the MTA is doing a study in Rockaway Beach LIRR reactivation for direct access from Penn Station to JFK and the Rockaways.
South Bronx is full of poor minorities and that's the real reason you think it's so terrible living there.
If it were dangerous it would not be gentrifying.
Never said the entire South Bronx. *You* drew that conclusion. Of course dangerous areas gentrify. If cannot afford any better, move to the cheapest thing possible, but if one has choices will use them. If had to *choose* between say Concourse Village and Morrisania, and here to tell you, would pick something on the Concourse like 800 Grand Concourse. Sketchy but *much* safer.
Smack your head harder, I revised it as Tremont as I misremembered the stations. The service pattern I'm talking about is what's called Regional Express Rail or S-Bahn services in other countries. There's no particular name for it in Japan, but it has the same kind of service. It's basically where you work on extending multiple branches out far into the metropolitan area and then have them interlined in areas of high density so that they serve as rapid transit systems. It's a lot more efficient as a service overall and basically better utilizes existing infrastructure.
NYC has a massive number of old rail right-of-ways and areas to potentially add service--the larger issue is that the system still uses stub track'ed terminal ends in the core, but even with that the current slate of projects make it possible for rapid transit-like service in the Bronx. There's the East Side Access which means another East River crossing route and berths for LIRR which then clears up space at Penn Station tracks for non-Hudson crossing trains which is why there's the follow up Penn Station Access plan:
The New Haven lines are trying to add more services. Routing to Penn Station means that more berths are opened up at Grand Central. The new Tappan Zee has the ability to handle commuter rail lines so that there's service connection West of the Hudson. Of these, the last one is the only one that has no real commitment save for having built the bridge to be capable of handling trains.
If these all go through, then why wouldn't this be a good use of the infrastructure, especially since the portion there is four-tracked? It'd be a lot cheaper and can come around a lot faster than waiting for the second avenue subway phases to finish and then try to get it expanded into the Bronx while it's about two to three short blocks away from Third Avenue.
Am not sure what you're running your mouth about, but that New Haven extension is already in the works. Just a matter of when exactly it'll be done.
Never said the entire South Bronx. *You* drew that conclusion. Of course dangerous areas gentrify. If cannot afford any better, move to the cheapest thing possible, but if one has choices will use them. If had to *choose* between say Concourse Village and Morrisania, and here to tell you, would pick something on the Concourse like 800 Grand Concourse. Sketchy but *much* safer.
Lower Concourse has better transportation options, so I would choose that as well. Which is probably a factor in it being safer. Some of the worst areas have concentrated poverty and are far from public transportation. Like Edenwald in the North Bronx.
Am not sure what you're running your mouth about, but that New Haven extension is already in the works. Just a matter of when exactly it'll be done.
How did you lose track of the point so quickly. What do you think it was about?
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Cannot run the thing like it's a subway. Metro North first and foremost provides service for the *suburban* communities that lack subway service which is why areas like Riverdale get more frequent service than say Melrose or Tremont. Thinking is, the residents have access to the subway.
