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Old 06-27-2010, 06:07 PM
 
Location: Imaginary Figment
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Why do these so called "happy" people working those jobs complain about them so much? They are nowhere near as hard as an actual job you get with a degree.
Your anecdotal evidence does not mean "everybody" complains. It only means people you have encountered do.

I have a close friend of twenty something years who is a lawyer and hates her job. Complains to me endlessly about it, should I also conclude that all attorneys hate their job? That everybody with a high level of education is unhappy with what they do for a living?
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Old 06-27-2010, 06:24 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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I make more than all my friends that went to college.
I got out of High School and started my own business. By the time my buddies got out of four years college, I had already bought my first house. When they got out of college I put 3 of them to work for me.
Now, I have 4 totally unrelated businesses and I'm fixing to start another.
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Old 06-27-2010, 06:34 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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It's amazing to me that some people will borrow money for a fancy car, but consider it heresy to borrow for college.

Me too. I don't own a car, but if I wanted one, it would be one I paid cash for.
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Old 06-27-2010, 06:37 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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lol you are so funny!

If you had read my original post I said I respect those that work in construction,oil rigs, mines, factories, but I do not respect or feel sorry for people that work at fast food restaurants or stores and complain nonstop about these so called hard jobs they have.
I complain because it's a job. It wouldn't matter what kind of job it was.
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Old 06-27-2010, 06:38 PM
 
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People in this political forum notoriously try to paint a black and white picture. Everyone has a different outlook on life so what makes some happy doesn't always apply to others. I know guys that never went to college and are much smarter than the average person yet they are content living on a lake guiding fishermen. I've known guys that went through college,graduated,and have been 100k in debt the last 10 years. Then there are the guys without college degrees that would sell their mother that make ungodly amounts of money in sales.

To the OP it's probably best that you don't try to assume what others go through and concentrate on what you have to do.
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Old 06-27-2010, 06:42 PM
 
Location: Not far from Fairbanks, AK
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This has always crossed my mind. I have had some friends who never went to college. They work minimum wage jobs like at Mcdonalds or at a grocery store. They often times complain and gripe about their job and about how they aren't making enough money and in my mind I think "well then you should have gone to college and you might be a lot hapier" It just bugs me and then I've had people in those jobs who have told me that college can't be anywhere near as hard as working at a grocery store, mcdonals, etc. it just really grinds my gears when people complain about their minimum wage jobs when they had the choice to go to college and try to make the best of life. I don't know if I'm the only one who feels this way or not. I am not talking about people who do construction, or work in mines, or dangerous jobs like that. I am talking about the people that work these so called "hard" jobs at fast food chains, stores, etc.
Making money has nothing to do with going to college. For example, I have known janitors at the university I work at who have college degrees. Another guy I know is an oceanographer (another college degree), and have seen plenty of young people with college degrees in the arts who work for minimum wages.

Perhaps your friends don't work long hours (such as having two jobs, for example), or just don't have the drive it takes to amass some cash. A lot of times some skill is a lot better than going to college. For example, a certified electrician, plumber, appliance technician, diesel engine mechanic, and so forth. The average plumbing charge per hour is around $65.00, and travel time is part of the charge. An appliance technician chargers about the same as a plumber. Both will charge you one hour, even if the job takes 15 minutes. All these people, as long as they are certified, make more than $26.00 per hour on full-time jobs, plus a lot of other benefits.
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Old 06-27-2010, 06:52 PM
 
Location: New London County, CT
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Making money has nothing to do with going to college. For example, I have known janitors at the university I work at who have college degrees. Another guy I know is an oceanographer (another college degree), and have seen plenty of young people with college degrees in the arts who work for minimum wages.
Again, we appear to be confusing the exceptions for the rule.

On average a college graduate will earn over a million dollars more over his/her life time than someone who didn't graduate college. There is a correlation. Saying they have nothing to do with each other simply isn't true.

Yes, there are loads of exceptions on every side...

It's frustrating when so many use "I knew a guy..." as evidence ignoring actual aggregate statistics.
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Old 06-27-2010, 06:54 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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There are leaders and there are followers.

Where do you fit?


Most colleges prepare you to be a full time follower, looking for a job right out of college.
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Old 06-27-2010, 06:55 PM
 
Location: AZ
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I think it's just human nature to think your job is harder than then next guys no matter what you do. I had a g/f once who'd complain all the time how her job was so hard and stressful....she was a hairdresser. I'm outside working in 90* heat and humidity and she's inside an air conditioned salon.
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Old 06-27-2010, 07:22 PM
 
Location: East Chicago, IN
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I think it's just human nature to think your job is harder than then next guys no matter what you do. I had a g/f once who'd complain all the time how her job was so hard and stressful....she was a hairdresser. I'm outside working in 90* heat and humidity and she's inside an air conditioned salon.

Well, in her defense she was dealing with women all day, so.....
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