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I left that neighborhood a long time ago, and I don't hang out with gangs anymore. I don't think OJ is innocent, either, but I'm sure you do. I stopped listening to rap music, and I went onto college and worked in the Peace Corps over in Africa, and I think most gangs in America are predominately black and Hispanic because those cultures don't put enough emphasis on education, and many of the people in those environment lack ambition, and you're not going to make me feel guilty about what I believe. I'm done!
How do you know how I feel about OJ? What makes you think I care about OJ?
Oh I forgot you have special powers to see into the minds of black people so you know what I'm thinking.
I'm not trying to make you feel guilty. If you don't see anything wrong with applying a damaged label on a whole group of people based on the actions of some then kudos to you.
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Or stir up trouble online like some people do.
yes pretty much like you're doing, huh? Glad you recognize it.
How do you know how I feel about OJ? What makes you think I care about OJ?
Oh I forgot you have special powers to see into the minds of black people so you know what I'm thinking.
I'm not trying to make you feel guilty. If you don't see anything wrong with applying a damaged label on a whole group of people based on the actions of some then kudos to you.
yes pretty much like you're doing, huh? Glad you recognize it.
I think the OJ jab was an attempt to hurt your feelings how old were you when OJ was aquitted?
I left that neighborhood a long time ago, and I don't hang out with gangs anymore. I don't think OJ is innocent, either, but I'm sure you do. I stopped listening to rap music, and I went onto college and worked in the Peace Corps over in Africa, and I think most gangs in America are predominately black and Hispanic because those cultures don't put enough emphasis on education, and many of the people in those environment lack ambition, and you're not going to make me feel guilty about what I believe. I'm done!
Here is the problem, no one is trying to make you feel guilty, if you have any feelings of guilt they are coming from with in. You posted on a message board, so of course there are going to be people that will respond to what you say. You posted in a politics and controversies thread at that, so there will be people debating what you said.
Our point of view is, why not look at people on an individual basis, instead of lumping everyone together as one.
You may not like the fact when someone points out that what you believe blacks and Hispanics are like isnt always the case, that just like whites, people are people and will decide for themselves how they are going to live.
I think the OJ jab was an attempt to hurt your feelings how old were you when OJ was aquitted?
I was 16 when that happened, and I remember it clearly. I remember him trying to pull out the race card to get himself off even though Mark Fuhrman's partner found OJ's fingerprint on the gate. Not to mention Marcia Clark's assistant D.A. was also black. Michael Vick tried pulling out the race card, too, after he forgot Johnny Cochran died 5 years ago. Then when they had him on camera, they realized it wasn't going to work. And when three people testified against Vick, that's when Al Sharpton kept his piehole shut. I guess he learned the hard way after Jesse Jackson made a fool of himself during that whole Duke Rape case.
I love the way Maxine Waters claimed that the Rodney King beating was a hate crime, too, which it clearly was. But then she turned around and claimed that the L.A. riots were a revolution. She failed to understand that revolutions usually are done because a certain group wants sovereignty. I don't think most of those black people in South Central L.A. wanted their own nation. However, I find it interesting that the whole Reginald Denny beating didn't make the headlines like Rodney King when that was a hate crime. And I didn't see a bunch of white people rioting in the streets, destroying buildings, turning over cars, and whatnot when Reginald Denny's assailants (who were gang members by the way) were all acquitted even though they were also on camera.
Here is the problem, no one is trying to make you feel guilty, if you have any feelings of guilt they are coming from with in. You posted on a message board, so of course there are going to be people that will respond to what you say. You posted in a politics and controversies thread at that, so there will be people debating what you said.
Our point of view is, why not look at people on an individual basis, instead of lumping everyone together as one.
You may not like the fact when someone points out that what you believe blacks and Hispanics are like isnt always the case, that just like whites, people are people and will decide for themselves how they are going to live.
Exactly. I don't know why people fail to realize how insulting it is for someone to tell you negative things about many or the majority of black people.
No one in my immediate family has ever been to jail. Both of my parents are college graduates. All of my sibilings are college graduates. My brother had his doctarates degree. His wife is a nurse. Their daughter is a teacher. All of them are black.
The things that she is saying does not apply to us and when you say that they say "your family is the expection to the rule" well who was it that made the rule that black people are supposed to be uneducated criminals?
I know way more college graduates and professionals than I do welfare queens convicts so why are we always pushed aside and considered the "special" group. Why aren't we the rule?
I was 16 when that happened, and I remember it clearly. I remember him trying to pull out the race card to get himself off even though Mark Fuhrman's partner found OJ's fingerprint on the gate. Not to mention Marcia Clark's assistant D.A. was also black. Michael Vick tried pulling out the race card, too, after he forgot Johnny Cochran died 5 years ago. Then when they had him on camera, they realized it wasn't going to work. And when three people testified against Vick, that's when Al Sharpton kept his piehole shut. I guess he learned the hard way after Jesse Jackson made a fool of himself during that whole Duke Rape case.
I love the way Maxine Waters claimed that the Rodney King beating was a hate crime, too, which it clearly was. But then she turned around and claimed that the L.A. riots were a revolution. She failed to understand that revolutions usually are done because a certain group wants sovereignty. I don't think most of those black people in South Central L.A. wanted their own nation. However, I find it interesting that the whole Reginald Denny beating didn't make the headlines like Rodney King when that was a hate crime. And I didn't see a bunch of white people rioting in the streets, destroying buildings, turning over cars, and whatnot when Reginald Denny's assailants (who were gang members by the way) were all acquitted even though they were also on camera.
what the hell has any of this got to do with gang violence in america?
what the hell has any of this got to do with gang violence in america?
They were gang members that attacked him. Nobody did anything about it. Gangs have no respect for anyone or anything because they act like animals, and people tolerate that kind of behavior. Then they get all touchy about race when someone identifies them or sees through the line. Kind of like Tupac Shakur claimed his tattoo saying "Thug Life" stands for "The Hate You Give Little Infants F--cks Everybody."
He claimed he wasn't a gang banger, but he wasn't fooling me. The guy acted like a criminal. He dressed like a criminal and hung out with criminals. He sang gangster rap, and he even had a criminal record. Then the guy met his demise at age 25 when he got gunned down on the Las Vegas strip. I wasn't there to see it, and I don't know all the details. However, based on all the extenuating circumstances, I find it hard to believe he wasn't a criminal because that whole situation seems pretty sketchy to me.
Exactly. I don't know why people fail to realize how insulting it is for someone to tell you negative things about many or the majority of black people.
No one in my immediate family has ever been to jail. Both of my parents are college graduates. All of my sibilings are college graduates. My brother had his doctarates degree. His wife is a nurse. Their daughter is a teacher. All of them are black.
The things that she is saying does not apply to us and when you say that they say "your family is the expection to the rule" well who was it that made the rule that black people are supposed to be uneducated criminals?
I know way more college graduates and professionals than I do welfare queens convicts so why are we always pushed aside and considered the "special" group. Why aren't we the rule?
I have to concur with you fully.
I have asked the same question. I grew up in a middle class predominantly white town, my wife on the other hand grew up in the inner-city. She went to the inner-city schools, but, now she has 2 degrees, and has never been on welfare in her life.
The way I look at it when it comes to people there are no rules. people make their own choices in life. Is there outside influences? of course, but it is up to the individual to decide what they do with said influence. So, if it is up to the individual, then no "rule" can truely exist. If no rule exists, then there can be no exception to it.
Exactly. I don't know why people fail to realize how insulting it is for someone to tell you negative things about many or the majority of black people.
No one in my immediate family has ever been to jail. Both of my parents are college graduates. All of my sibilings are college graduates. My brother had his doctarates degree. His wife is a nurse. Their daughter is a teacher. All of them are black.
The things that she is saying does not apply to us and when you say that they say "your family is the expection to the rule" well who was it that made the rule that black people are supposed to be uneducated criminals?
I know way more college graduates and professionals than I do welfare queens convicts so why are we always pushed aside and considered the "special" group. Why aren't we the rule?
Kudos to you and your family. I'm sure I'd be delighted to meet them. Like I said, I'm always thrilled whenever I meet people of any race that have class and ambition and don't act like a bunch of lowlifes with no respect for anything. I'm sure they all got where they are by working hard.
They were gang members that attacked him. Nobody did anything about it. Gangs have no respect for anyone or anything because they act like animals, and people tolerate that kind of behavior. Then they get all touchy about race when someone identifies them or sees through the line. Kind of like Tupac Shakur claimed his tattoo saying "Thug Life" stands for "The Hate You Give Little Infants F--cks Everybody."
He claimed he wasn't a gang banger, but he wasn't fooling me. The guy acted like a criminal. He dressed like a criminal and hung out with criminals. He sang gangster rap, and he even had a criminal record. Then the guy met his demise at age 25 when he got gunned down on the Las Vegas strip. I wasn't there to see it, and I don't know all the details. However, based on all the extenuating circumstances, I find it hard to believe he wasn't a criminal because that whole situation seems pretty sketchy to me.
Here is where my issue stems from, you have a hatred for gangs, fine, nothing wrong with that, but, you don't have no idea why kids join gangs, you don't know much about gangs or what the gangs believe. If you truly wanted to help with gang problems, you first have to educate yourself about the gangs. Otherwise, all you are doing is complaining.
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how old were you when OJ was aquitted?
