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You're the one who said that abortion is OK right up until the point of birth, so you tell me. All I'm trying to get at is how a sane person can rationalize the depraved idea that a baby is no functioning person right up until its head pops out.
I did not say abortion is ok up to the point of birth. I did say..."once born and no longer dependent on a womb to survive, a new born baby, a toddler or any age from birth to grave is not in the abortion debate."
I am in favor however of late term abortions when they meet all the medical requirements to indeed have one.
women like man, have every right to control their own bodies. what they do with them are none of your business, no matter what you might think.
So you do not believe in privacy? The reasons behind a woman's decision to have an abortion are private, between herself, the father if he is in the picture, and her doctor. I'm sorry that you feel so very important that you need to know other people's private business, but you don't.
I agree with you. That poster needs to step into the real world, where women have rights.
nice to see misogyny is alive and well..hope he doesnt talk to a female at the workplace like that: in for a nice big lawsuit.
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So a baby minutes from birth is abortable? Abortion fetishists always love to retreat to legal technicalities when real morality and human pain come into play.
So let's go there. Before you answer let's be perfectly clear - that baby, hooked to a placenta or not, can feel, think and cry.
"Abortion fetishists"? Are you kidding me? Do you actually believe that there are people who get off on the idea of aborting an embryo or fetus or whatever you choose to call it?
I did not say abortion is ok up to the point of birth. I did say..."once born and no longer dependent on a womb to survive, a new born baby, a toddler or any age from birth to grave is not in the abortion debate."
By definition, hothulamaui, "no longer dependent upon a womb to survive.." *is* a condition of birth. So a baby minutes away from birth yet still connected to the womb is, by your own definition, part of the abortion debate.
So please untangle yourself. Is it OK to abort a baby minutes from birth? If not, then when is it OK? Any by what criteria do you arrive at that idea?
[quote=vkhmini;18339156]"Abortion fetishists"? Are you kidding me? Do you actually believe that there are people who get off on the idea of aborting
an embryo or fetus or whatever you choose to call it? [\quote]
Yes. There are people who get a charge from power in weird ways.
By the very definition which you conveniently sourced for us, fetishism is:
2: Extravagant irrational devotion
That fairly well sums up the morally bankrupt, Dworkinist Left who worship at the altar of Nihilism.
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"Abortion fetishists"? Are you kidding me? Do you actually believe that there are people who get off on the idea of aborting
an embryo or fetus or whatever you choose to call it? [\quote]
Yes. There are people who get a charge from power in weird ways.
By the very definition which you conveniently sourced for us, fetishism is:
2: Extravagant irrational devotion
That fairly well sums up the morally bankrupt, Dworkinist Left who worship at the altar of Nihilism.
Let's not even mention the fetish under your kilt.
Man, reading the selfishness involved here I wonder how much better it would be if the babies lived and we aborted the mothers.
This is the kind of stuff that I can see making children favor euthanasia involving their parents.
An opinion that encourages women to make the best decision for themselves is selfish?
I'm not aware of any civil rights laws pertaining to abortion, except for Roe v. Wade. Perhaps you could provide a link.
You're dodging. You insist that abortion is OK because it's the law of the land. I just demonstrated to you where the law of the land can go wrong. So are you saying that the law is beyond question?
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