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Old 06-23-2011, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Northern Va. from N.J.
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This morning on the news they mentioned a special job fair for vets only.
I believe for many public service jobs you get points added on to your test score for military service.
I think there was a time when we had the draft and young people did not have a choice but to be drafted into the military it was fair.
But does that still hold true in today’s world where we have an all voluntary army.
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Old 06-23-2011, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Center of the universe
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I think they should get preference, in the private sector and the public.
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Old 06-23-2011, 10:12 AM
 
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It depends on the job. If they being a military vet enables them to do a particular job better, then yes. Perhaps this job fair was for jobs like that.
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Old 06-23-2011, 10:17 AM
 
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No.
They volunteered for and were paid to be in the military.
We should also stop the practice of preferential loans to military personnel.
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Old 06-23-2011, 10:21 AM
 
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This morning on the news they mentioned a special job fair for vets only.
I believe for many public service jobs you get points added on to your test score for military service.
I think there was a time when we had the draft and young people did not have a choice but to be drafted into the military it was fair.
But does that still hold true in today’s world where we have an all voluntary army.

I knew a person who applied for a position as an Administrative Law Judge with Social Security. He had been working as an attorney for the agency. Lazy as can be. I was his supervisor.

He was a 'ten point' vet (meaning, ten points added to his score after his application for the positive had been evaluated and passed). This gave him a decided advantage over the other applicants (he had a service-connected disability; not a war injury, but something to do with his heart).

During the process I was called to give my opinion about this person's potential as an ALJ: I was blunt: "He would be awful. He is lazy, does not produce any work, and does not know the law". The caller was taken aback: "Legalsea, are you sure you want that on the record?" Yes, I replied.

My evaluation made no difference. He was hired, and, years later, is regarded as one of the worse ALJs in Texas. I guess he holds a dozen or so hearings a month (most will hold 80 or so).

However, I generally do favor veterans having some preferences. Yet, ability should still count.
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Old 06-23-2011, 10:22 AM
 
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No. May the best qualified win.
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Old 06-23-2011, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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NO, there should be ZERO AFFIRMATIVE ACTION favoritism....not for military, not for race, not for gender
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Old 06-23-2011, 10:31 AM
 
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I think they should get preference, in the private sector and the public.
Why?
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Old 06-23-2011, 10:34 AM
 
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I say yes. It's bad enough that vets don't get proper care when they return from war.
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Old 06-23-2011, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis
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The only people who should get preferences in job hiring are those who are best qualified to do the job.

By all means, we should provide programs which address the special needs of individuals who have physical or psychological issues which have arisen due to their military service.

We should also provide assistance in making the adjustment back to civilian life. But, that assistance should be limited to training and counseling services.

Any other perks from military service amount to nothing more than after-the-fact inducements to enlist.

Last edited by rogead; 06-23-2011 at 10:37 AM.. Reason: awkward gramar!
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