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Old 08-18-2011, 02:46 AM
 
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Why stop there? If you're poor and food costs too much, just stop eating. No one's forcing you to require that USDA of vitamins and minerals, quit making it a necessity to function.
Why stop there? if you are poor or lose your job you are deemed worthless,as a result you and your family get turned into Soylent Green.
American exceptionalism!
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Old 08-18-2011, 02:48 AM
 
Location: Central, IL
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You need food to live so I can support some form of government aid like food stamps. Having children is not a necessity. If the poor stopped having kids in this country, poverty would be mostly eliminated in one to two generations.
Well, since there are poor families that have children that end up being middle class and sometime even rich.. and there are rich families that have children that end up being poor, your whole theory is moot.

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Old 08-18-2011, 03:16 AM
 
Location: San Antonio, Texas
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And whats really sad??? The daycare provider charges outragous amounts every week to provide care...but requires their employees to have advanced education in Early Childhood Development and still only pays pennies above minimum wage... and NO benefits. No PTO..no health insurance, no 401K..nothing. Do the math...480 a week for 6 babies ($11,520 a month), 400 a week for 6-9 toddlers ($9600 a month)...350 a week for 10 4-5 year olds. ($14,000 a month)and 200 a week for 12-14 after schoolers ($9600 a month) Plus there is the additional cost for full time care during summer when children are not in school..plus the drop-in program for SAH Moms.. Thats $44,720 plus a month these providers are making. This may not be completely accurate because I've been out of the business for awhile. But I'll bet it's pretty close. And they still pay less then $10.00 an hour and no benefits to their employees. When I worked in daycare I made minimum wage..and paid half tuition for my son so I could bring him with me...oh yeah and my meals were free..big whoop.
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Old 08-18-2011, 04:01 AM
 
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So I guess the only people who complain about childcare being expensive are poor people? Let's nueter those complainers while the wealthy parents bum off their kids to nannies and daycares instead!
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Old 08-18-2011, 04:16 AM
 
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So I guess the only people who complain about childcare being expensive are poor people? Let's nueter those complainers while the wealthy parents bum off their kids to nannies and daycares instead!

I've never heard poor people complain about childcare. Most truly poor folks get some sort of subsidy for childcare, at least in my area. I'm all for that if it gets them out working.

The middle class are the complainers. I'm middle class, tons of my friends used daycare, including me. I never overly complained though--just in an overall sense. To have children and to work was my choice. Caring for my kids was one of the most important jobs out there. To find a good daycare provider is like having gold. I would never have complained. In reality, they don't get paid nearly enough for what they do.
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Old 08-18-2011, 04:27 AM
 
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Don't have kids if you can't afford them you idiots. I'm broke. That's why I don't have kids. Money don't grow on trees. This isn't rocket science.
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Old 08-18-2011, 04:35 AM
 
Location: Coastal Georgia
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This is where woman's lib and the breakdown of the American family is well illustrated.
Unless a woman makes a lot of money, it is frequently more sensible to stay home with the kids than to spend most of your wages on childacre, clothing, gas etc. in order to go to work. This is where a working husband and father becomes actually necessary. What a concept.
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Old 08-18-2011, 05:12 AM
 
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Some places if not most places around the world subsidize daycare, as an example Canadas Quebec province has $5 a day daycare.

(PDF Format).
http://www.arts.usask.ca/economics/s...e%20Policy.pdf

Yeah i know it didnt work,they had to raise it to $7 a day..
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Old 08-18-2011, 06:22 AM
 
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Even without the entitlement attitude, some people are just stupid. It's not a surprise that all the people we thought were stupid in highschool now have kids and unfavorable lives 7 years later lol. They're all pissed off because all the childless people went to college and have more freedom.

This is why we need to educate people about birth control and abortion.
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Old 08-18-2011, 06:28 AM
 
Location: USA
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Some places if not most places around the world subsidize daycare, as an example Canadas Quebec province has $5 a day daycare.

(PDF Format).
http://www.arts.usask.ca/economics/s...e%20Policy.pdf

Yeah i know it didnt work,they had to raise it to $7 a day..
$7 a day is still pretty affordable.

Canada is a great country, the right calls it socialist, but I prefer to call it civilized. They have to be doing something right if <10% of the population lives in poverty, and quite a few in Canada live in "poverty" by choice. Native Americans that live off the land are an example of this. Contrast that with the US, we have poverty rates that are getting close to the levels of poverty in Mexico or Brazil.
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