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Old 08-18-2011, 07:40 AM
 
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I've never heard poor people complain about childcare. Most truly poor folks get some sort of subsidy for childcare, at least in my area. I'm all for that if it gets them out working.

The middle class are the complainers. I'm middle class, tons of my friends used daycare, including me. I never overly complained though--just in an overall sense. To have children and to work was my choice. Caring for my kids was one of the most important jobs out there. To find a good daycare provider is like having gold. I would never have complained. In reality, they don't get paid nearly enough for what they do.
True. Most of the poor around here have completely free babysitting services, for example the Head Start centers and public schools where the bus comes and picks up their broods and they can then head out to the malls or Walmart for a day of shopping or stay home and watch cable television without their children getting in the way.

It's the working middle class types who complain because they have to pay out of their own hard earned money for day care.
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Old 08-18-2011, 07:51 AM
 
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True. Most of the poor around here have completely free babysitting services, for example the Head Start centers and public schools where the bus comes and picks up their broods and they can then head out to the malls or Walmart for a day of shopping or stay home and watch cable television without their children getting in the way.

It's the working middle class types who complain because they have to pay out of their own hard earned money for day care.

I know that each program runs a little differently. Head Start, in my area, doesn't appear to be all-day daycare used by the working poor who are at work all day. It is for anyone who is poor who does not have access to some form of preschool for older toddlers, young children. It's more to give the kids a "leg up" on education versus helping the parents unload their kids.

In our county, if you work AND you make below a certain income level, you are given vouchers that any local daycare center will honor for regular daycare. It doesn't cover the full cost but does subsidize the full bill. I'm okay with this because the woman has to prove regularly that she is holding a full-time job and what her wages are. If she quits, she loses the voucher. It also allows her to stay in the workforce and hopefully work her way up eventually. Also, most daycare centers in our area are very full and they only take full-time kids so, if you are only trying to work part time and put your kids in daycare, you pretty much get stuck with a full-time bill.
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Old 08-18-2011, 07:52 AM
 
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Can't win with some people. They say "don't breed them" but are against abortion. I am not saying that abortion should be used as a form of birth control, but unplanned pregnancies do happen. When they do and the parents, who just happen to be poor choose to have the child and are apparently working, who the hell are you to judge? Childcare is expensive and so much in some cases that it doesn't benefit the parent to work at all.

True there are people who are lazy and take advantage of the system, but this isn't true for all poor people and by making blanket statements and generalizations, you appear to be a very closed-minded, judegmental individual who lacks compassion. Sex is instinctual, no matter how some people would like to think that it's not. It is not just the poor that have more children that they can handle. I have seen upper middle class families who get in over their heads as well and fathers who insist that the mother stay home, knowing that they have too many children and are struggling on his one income, yet they still insist on living above their means and having more babies. Just because a person makes six figures doesn't mean they make better choices. Who do you think loses more homes to foreclosure, I doubt it's the poor.
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Old 08-18-2011, 07:53 AM
 
Location: Metro-Detroit area
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I have a simple solution. Don't have any kids.
Let me make an equally stupid observation.

People in Los Angeles complain about smog and the air quality.

I have a simple solution, don't breath.
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Old 08-18-2011, 08:05 AM
 
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Hey....many on CD complain of "loopholes".

There is one.

Childcare is deductible!!!

http://www.fool.com/personal-finance...-day-care.aspx
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Old 08-18-2011, 08:07 AM
 
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I have a simple solution. Don't have any kids.
What you're really saying is: don't have sex.

Good luck with that policy.
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Old 08-18-2011, 08:08 AM
 
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Let me make an equally stupid observation.

People in Los Angeles complain about smog and the air quality.

I have a simple solution, don't breath.
Wow. Are you really equating having kids when you have no money - with breathing? Come on man.

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What you're really saying is: don't have sex.

Good luck with that policy.
Condoms are like 99% effective... again, not rocket science.
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Old 08-18-2011, 08:09 AM
 
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What you're really saying is: don't have sex.

Good luck with that policy.
Worked for me.
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Old 08-18-2011, 08:11 AM
 
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And like I said in my previous post, it isn't just the poor that have more children than they can take care of.
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Old 08-18-2011, 08:14 AM
 
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And like I said in my previous post, it isn't just the poor that have more children than they can take care of.
If you have more kids than you can afford, how are you not poor?
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