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Do you even realize how sad this is? You're supposed to plan for kids, it's called birth control (and taking it PROPERLY) and not trying to have kids until you're married.
Worked for me.
Because marriage totally means you are financially able to raise a child and provide for him/her .....
Do you even realize how sad this is? You're supposed to plan for kids, it's called birth control (and taking it PROPERLY) and not trying to have kids until you're married.
It is not only the poor complaining about good childcare. Good childcare today costs a small fortune. I know many young moms who have their children and as well as my grandchidlren in a good daycare. For jsut 2 days a week it is unbelievable if you want good day care. I know many middleclass and above who are complaining about daycare. By the time you pick the child up, if you drive an hour to work, their is gas both ways, clothing for work, starts adding up. If the child is not party trained, it cost you more.
The problem is that daycare costs more than most working class people can afford to pay, and yet daycare wages are not as much as the daycare workers deserve for the important job they do. What that tells me is that unless you earn a very large salary, you probably would do better trying to figure out how to stay home with your children for the first five years (obviously not possible if you are a single mother) rather than try to work. If a mother is paid about as much as her daycare provider is paid, then it's a wash after you factor in travel expenses, work wardrobe, etc. I've known a number of couples who tried very hard to figure out how to live on one salary because at the end of the day, they really weren't better off financially if the wife worked and they had to pay daycare expenses.
Last edited by chattypatty; 08-18-2011 at 09:56 PM..
This is where woman's lib and the breakdown of the American family is well illustrated.
Unless a woman makes a lot of money, it is frequently more sensible to stay home with the kids than to spend most of your wages on childacre, clothing, gas etc. in order to go to work. This is where a working husband and father becomes actually necessary. What a concept.
Yep, I agree. Didn't read through all the posts before I posted above. You are saying basically the same thing I said.
We need carbon freezing like in Empire Strikes Back. We don't really need more kids, but if you have em, we'll freeze em, and when (if) we do need em, we'll unfreeze some of them. I'll throw my vote toward the first candidate who pledges funding for this.
My girlfriend is going to visit her best friend in Havelock, NC, in two weeks and the best friend says they can't really go anywhere other than the beach because of her 4 year old, and she remarked, "I wish she just had an 'off' switch."
My sister's best friend from childhood has five boys but "really wants a girl" even though she doesn't pay much attention to the middle boys and her poor husband works himself to death to try to pay for all these luxury kids and the large house needed to contain them. And she's pregnant again!! I'm not sure why she's on my Facebook...
Maybe the default position should be an inability to achieve pregnancy. Maybe Depo Provera in the water supply? IUDs installed at birth? I don't know I'm just tossing spaghetti at the wall here...
To the OP, are you really upset about people complaining, or is there more, like, that you are really upset they may ask the government to help with daycare costs and then that raises taxes? I'm not clear on what you are upset about. At any rate, what's really wrong with complaining? Life is hard, especially if you are the working poor or the struggling middle class, and complaining is a way to let off steam and feel a little better.
Only the wealthy can really afford daycare. For everyone else, it's a huge expense, more than a mortgage. It is unrealistic to expect that everyone, even those who are very hardworking and responsible, are going to be able to earn a 6 figure income. We are always going to have lower and middle class people, with varying degrees of responsibility and work ethic, and they should be able to experience the joys of having and raising children, too. It's not too much to ask people to be as responsible as possible, such as, limiting their family to one or two children, or finding a way for the wife to stay home for a few years, or work from home instead, but to require everyone to be well off enough to "afford daycare" before having children is simply unrealistic and unfair, frankly. Daycare is THAT expensive. If you don't have children, you don't have any idea.
She wasn't using birth control, from what I understand. In that case, she shouldn't have been having sex to begin with.
Thank God that baby will always have a good life.
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In that case, she shouldn't have been having sex to begin with.
