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Old 08-18-2011, 08:16 AM
 
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What you're really saying is: don't have sex.

Good luck with that policy.
Nobody is saying that.

Use a condom or birth control.

Go get an abortion if you need to.

STOP HAVING CHILDREN IF YOU CANNOT AFFORD THEM.

Having kids is not a right.
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Old 08-18-2011, 08:16 AM
 
Location: Metro-Detroit area
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Wow. Are you really equating having kids when you have no money - with breathing? Come on man.



Condoms are like 99% effective... again, not rocket science.
What I'm saying is this, this middle class and working poor in this country are losing financial ground daily. Child care is expensive, where I live one child in full time day care is $800.00. If you have two children that's $1600.00 a month.

So for idiots to get on here and attempt to minimize the economic hurdles that many people face is ludicrous.

As I said in my earlier post, the op's statement and my corresponding one were both stupid statements on their face.
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Old 08-18-2011, 08:19 AM
 
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What I'm saying is this, this middle class and working poor in this country are losing financial ground daily. Child care is expensive, where I live one child in full time day care is $800.00. If you have two children that's $1600.00 a month.

So for idiots to get on here and attempt to minimize the economic hurdles that many people face is ludicrous.
Hey I hear you dude. Times are hard. I had this brilliant idea that I've been trying, and it's worked for me for the last couple years. Don't have kids. I won't have kids until I am making money and I have a nice chunk of savings.

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As I said in my earlier post, the op's statement and my corresponding one were both stupid statements on their face.
No, just yours. Because you know what happens if you don't breath right? You die. Whereas if you don't have kids... nothing happens. So no the two are not comparable.
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Old 08-18-2011, 08:20 AM
 
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If you have more kids than you can afford, how are you not poor?

Because people who make six figures aren't considered poor. Buying an expensive house, two cars and having baby after baby on one income is living beyond your means. People go into debt because of this and in some cases, lose their homes. Most people middle class/poor are a pay check away from poverty. My point was that being middle class or wealthy doesn't automatically mean that you make good choices financially or when it comes to having children. People are constantly passing judgment and bashing the poor as if they are the root of all evil and are a bunch of lazy, menaces to society who don't deserve anything. Yet the same people go to church every Sunday and claim to be Christian. BS.
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Old 08-18-2011, 08:24 AM
 
Location: Metro-Detroit area
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Hey I hear you dude. Times are hard. I had this brilliant idea that I've been trying, and it's worked for me for the last couple years. Don't have kids. I won't have kids until I am making money and I have a nice chunk of savings.



No, just yours. Because you know what happens if you don't breath right? You die. Whereas if you don't have kids... nothing happens. So no the two are not comparable.
You don't have kids???...oohhh okay. I get your lack of insight now.
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Old 08-18-2011, 08:27 AM
 
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Because people who make six figures aren't considered poor. Buying an expensive house, two cars and having baby after baby on one income is living beyond your means. People go into debt because of this and in some cases, lose their homes. Most people middle class/poor are a pay check away from poverty. My point was that being middle class or wealthy doesn't automatically mean that you make good choices financially or when it comes to having children.
Those middle class people who blow all their money and can't afford their kids are no longer rich at that point, they are poor.

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People are constantly passing judgment and bashing the poor as if they are the root of all evil and are a bunch of lazy, menaces to society who don't deserve anything. Yet the same people go to church every Sunday and claim to be Christian. BS.
Some people do that. Some other people constantly make generalizations about how we "hate the poor" because we have a problem with irresponsibility. I've been responsible my whole damn life. I deserve to reap the benefits of that more than someone who hasn't.
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Old 08-18-2011, 08:28 AM
 
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You don't have kids???...oohhh okay. I get your lack of insight now.
Insight? What I just said required no insight. Just a tiny bit of common sense.

Yeah, I don't have kids because I don't have enough money. What do I have to be an idiot and have kids while I'm broke in order to speak on this topic?
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Old 08-18-2011, 08:31 AM
 
Location: East Chicago, IN
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Until you walk a mile in another man's shoes.....
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Old 08-18-2011, 08:31 AM
 
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Those middle class people who blow all their money and can't afford their kids are no longer rich at that point, they are poor.



Some people do that. Some other people constantly make generalizations about how we "hate the poor" because we have a problem with irresponsibility. I've been responsible my whole damn life. I deserve to reap the benefits of that more than someone who hasn't.
And if someone is working every day and taking care of their children, they are just as responsible or even more than you are. The cost of living is high. I am not poor and I have complained about it before. I work hard as well, more than some people who have it a lot easier than I do some of them make more and some make less. Either way, if I want to complain about the cost of living, the cost of childcare or the cost of toilet paper, I am entitled to do so.
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Old 08-18-2011, 08:35 AM
 
Location: Metro-Detroit area
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Insight? What I just said required no insight. Just a tiny bit of common sense.

Yeah, I don't have kids because I don't have enough money. What do I have to be an idiot and have kids while I'm broke in order to speak on this topic?
Again, your lack of insight has made itself clear.

Feel free to post another ill thought out thread.
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