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Old 02-04-2012, 01:02 PM
 
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I never said abortion wasn't a womens right!! What you people don't get, it's not grown women having abortions, not the majority, it's girls under 18. You people type, what you don't get!!!
You type, but you haven't gotten anything right yet.

Your post is factually incorrect, which is pretty much par for your course.

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• Eighteen percent of U.S. women obtaining abortions are teenagers; those aged 15–17 obtain 6% of all abortions, teens aged 18–19 obtain 11%, and teens younger than age 15 obtain 0.4%.[6]
• Women in their 20s account for more than half of all abortions; women aged 20–24 obtain 33% of all abortions, and women aged 25–29 obtain 24%.[6]
Facts on Induced Abortion in the United States
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Old 02-04-2012, 01:12 PM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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OK, on another note, this whole debate opened up a can of worms that I'm sure the Komen folks were not expecting. It has come to my attention that the organization spends 60% of its take on overhead, lawsuits, high salaries and administrative costs. Seems like an audit is long overdue.
You can read Komen's audit at GuideStar; not sure if its audit is on its website.

In the defense of nonprofits, however, I must say that administrative expenses are necessary. The lights must be turned on, the computers must be purchased, the copiers must be repaired, the budget managers must receive their salaries.

Sixty percent is way high -- anything over 15 percent should raise eyebrows -- but that figure also depends on how each individual nonprofit defines "administrative" costs. My nonprofit defines administrative costs as anything not involved in direct client service: budgeting, fundraising, human resources, benefits, accounts receivable and payable, and upper management, and the expenses related to those administrative services. But paying the electric bill and repairing the copier at one of our group homes, along with the salaries for the employees, are not administrative expenses, because those items directly benefit our residents.

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Fraud #1 - non-profit charities by nature are frauds in vast majority, created and operated from the top by hypocrites and con artists portraying themselves as charitable minded do gooders, rather than the self serving bottom feeders that they generally are. The reality is, a predominant percentage of donations collected by these "charities" tend to go toward administrative activities, rather than the for the causes and delivered to the recipients for which the donations were intended. It's next to impossible to find such a case where the vast percentage of funds ever make it to those for which the contributions were intended. (That's why I refuse to give a penny to any of them)
Please try to refrain from spreading any more misconceptions and illogically and/or erroneously gained conclusions. It would be a shame if your ignorance of nonprofit management colored the opinions of anyone else who truly wants to help others in need.
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Old 02-04-2012, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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You already do.

BTW, I've just hidden you so I can't see any more of your absurd posts (thankfully ).
"I'm glad you did.... I have never bothered "hiding" anyone, because I am not afraid to support my beliefs. That this poster is speaks volumes.. Have a nice day..
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Old 02-04-2012, 01:21 PM
 
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You can read Komen's audit at GuideStar; not sure if its audit is on its website.

In the defense of nonprofits, however, I must say that administrative expenses are necessary. The lights must be turned on, the computers must be purchased, the copiers must be repaired, the budget managers must receive their salaries.

Sixty percent is way high -- anything over 15 percent should raise eyebrows -- but that figure also depends on how each individual nonprofit defines "administrative" costs. My nonprofit defines administrative costs as anything not involved in direct client service: budgeting, fundraising, human resources, benefits, accounts receivable and payable, and upper management, and the expenses related to those administrative services. But paying the electric bill and repairing the copier at one of our group homes, along with the salaries for the employees, are not administrative expenses, because those items directly benefit our residents.


Please try to refrain from spreading any more misconceptions and illogically and/or erroneously gained conclusions. It would be a shame if your ignorance of nonprofit management colored the opinions of anyone else who truly wants to help others in need.
I'm so glad someone else on here knows what's going on. Thanks for clearing that up.

Last edited by dclamb3; 02-04-2012 at 01:31 PM.. Reason: I took the second part out since really that could be an entire other thread.
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Old 02-04-2012, 01:42 PM
 
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Really?

Parents are not forced to care for their children? Is child neglect no longer illegal?
Nope. It's perfectly legal for Fred Phelps to use his children as hate agenda bots in broad daylight. It's perfectly legal, protecting 'parental rights' at all costs, to deny sex education and insult to injury blame the minors for the consequence of having horrible parents. I sentence you to a decade of recording juvenile detention center life stories.

Prove it's illegal to take an off the books dowry from a well heeled suitor in exchange for your 14yr old daughter in Texas if it's judicial system won't be bothered to enforce rape charges and women who defend themselves are on death row.

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Non-custodial fathers aren't forced to make child support payments under threat of imprisonment?
I sentence you to a decade in the trenches in social worker offices and walking alongside homicide detectives who emotionally bear the full brunt of 'polite' societies closed eyes.

Proving he exists when he used an alias the entire time he knew the woman in question is one thing.
Then there's the threat of violence & deliberately undermining their upbringing over resentment of child care payments. What significance does his imprisonment have to a dead mother or her dead children?

The best laid plan of deadbeats is to stay off the radar entirely and work off the books, because you can't get blood from a turnip. But it's also possible to romance someone new and use her to declare hardship once she's pregnant to reduce your payments and put all of the above below the poverty line making welfare exponential.

I once had a landlord who did the wealthy mans shuffle of assets to out of state parents and relatives in such a way that he claimed poverty and dodged long enough until they turned 18. Should I have tracked his ex wife down and informed his 16yr old son what his 'dad' was up to, or was discretion the better part of valor? Was it in his best interest he not know his own father was a POS who loved his SUV more than his own son at such a crucial age?

Don't wonder why Steve Jobs and his sister Mona didn't think much of their dad, the F-troop sperm donor. I heard 'dad' was hoping for a death bed call from his wealthy son. Steve gave him all the respect he deserved. He flicked him off like an irrelevant flea.

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Sorry but you'll have to come up with a better argument than that.
The burden of proof you are owed the time of day is on you. Come up with an argument why boys in mens bodies have any rights at all beyond earning the right to be neutered.

You haven't qualified yourself to have any opinion beyond the one gender world of your one sided self worshiping brain. Your rights end the day you abuse my half of the species as a garbage can and made it "someone else's" problem. Namely, hers, and her ability or inability to tangibly parent the unborn in an economic system egregiously hostile to motherhood (married or not). The every man woman and child for themselves economic plan punishes 'deadbeat infants' for requiring breast milk and intensive care giving to cultivate their independence. If care is given with unconditional love, it's worthless in civilizations ledger books. It's worthless to the Corporations, Churches, and the men in her life, too. Saying yes to life is on the ground cold stark reality a voluntary agreement to embrace poverty as a term and condition of existence for 20yrs or better. Saying yes to life means saying yes to being blamed BY the civilization for the very terms and conditions imposed by an unjust civilization. It's also being at the mercy of animals living in poverty because they themselves are violent criminals preying on the poor in the least position to defend themselves.

There is no such thing as pro choice legislation prohibiting men from stepping up. They figured a way into her pants without birth control, but mysteriously, (without duress, minus Dad's shotgun, legalese wagging fingers, and zero gag orders on omnipotent religious right) reliably comes up empty handed in the vision, skill, and courage to solve how to put a ring on a finger. Is selective INattention and willful neglect fatherhood material? I hereby sentence you with Levi Johnston for a father selling your baby pictures to the highest bidder for 15 minutes of fame. I sentence you to meth trailer parents. I sentence you to live in the brothel chained to your human trafficked mother and bear witness 20 times daily for 18 yrs who and what an evil doer looks like.

I will remind you this thread was about a breast cancer prevention charity getting abused for political agendas. You, and all other RTL, could give a rats behind about women or children for that matter. What you fail to appreciate leaves you. You aren't worthy of either. Stark cold reality there it is. Face yourself in the mirror if you dare. The philosophy you mean to live out spent thousands of years rounding up the usual suspects religiously, socially and legally torturing & murdering women and children for what is, and has ever been, your own crime of misogyny and your unwillingness to fully be a man. You have intellectually engaged in nailing all of womankind to a cross to pay the price of your own sins.
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Old 02-04-2012, 01:48 PM
 
Location: AL
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Funny how people trot this argument out for abortion, but when it comes to them wanting to force everyone to pay higher taxes to support the social programs they want then that "if you want it, you handle it yourself" argument magically disappears.
Excellent point
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Old 02-04-2012, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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And if you believe none of those dollars are actually used for abortions, or to participate in sex trafficking, you've fallen for the progressive spin.

Congress is investigating, so there's something to be looked into, obviously.
Hasn't Planned Parenthood been under investigation for a long time, and if so, what has been found out?
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Old 02-04-2012, 02:34 PM
 
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Oh, no it's not (girls under 18 who get the majority of abortions). What don't YOU get?

Abortion Surveillance --- United States, 2007

Among the 48 areas that reported by age for 2007, women aged 20--29 years accounted for the majority (56.9%) of abortions and had the highest abortion rates (29.4 and 21.4 abortions per 1,000 women aged 20--24 and 25--29 years, respectively) (Figure 2; Table 3). Women in the youngest and oldest age groups (<15 or ≥40 years) accounted for the smallest percentage of abortions (0.5% and 3.2%, respectively) and had the lowest abortion rates (1.2 and 2.6 abortions per 1,000 women aged <15 and ≥40 years, respectively). . . . Adolescents aged 18--19 years accounted for the majority (62.3%) of adolescent abortions and had the highest adolescent abortion rates
Bolded portion statistics corresponds with DOJ statistics of most likely age groups targeted by intimate partner violence, running tandem with poverty statistics, overwhelmingly pointed at the female gender in cross hairs.

So... who and what are these young women electing for abortion responding to? Faux conservative rabid right swears on a stack of bibles that 'man hating' feminists are responsible for males abandoning control of themselves. But... faux conservatives applaud males abandoning control of themselves with infidelity, open marriages, sports figures running amok, brothels? Curious how many republican think tank donors made their fortunes selling military industrial complex, illegal immigrant exploitation, liquor, tobacco, and porn, isn't it?

Curious this decade long surge of violence against women in military service coming from males coached by some mysterious birdies in their ears to betray their shipmates for use as target practice. Is Dubbya still sharing his 'love'? Are women still prohibited from self defense even in the military??? Mission accomplished installed traitor to the troops Elaine Donnelly! Center for Military Readiness | Home
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Old 02-04-2012, 02:47 PM
 
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How about if that girl is only 11yo and she was raped by her father and the fetus would be born with abnormalities and struggle to survive?
The horror parade of civilizations 'entitlement' to prey...

List of youngest birth mothers - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You made your bed trusting your family members uncommitted to your education, protection, dignity or well being. Now lie in it.
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Old 02-04-2012, 03:23 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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"I'm glad you did.... I have never bothered "hiding" anyone, because I am not afraid to support my beliefs. That this poster is speaks volumes.. Have a nice day..
LOL! "Speaks volumes" is a favorite RW cliche. Someone needs to get you guys a group thesaurus.
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