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Old 02-18-2012, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Correct for today. I'd expect to see petition stations (for lack of a better word) within a week



Yes. The number is 20% of the total that voted in the last Gubernatorial election with no more than 50% of the total coming from any one County.

As a note, the petition drive against the Dream Act was predicted to fail. It didn't.

My guess is that signatures will be harder to get on this one.
All they need is 55000. PG can easily get half of that number. They'll just set up tables after church at the mega churches. The other 27500 should come easily from the Eastern Shore, Southern Maryland and Western Maryland. Throw in the Blacks in Baltimore and Hispanics and Asians in Montgomery and Baltimore County this should be a slam dunk.

Gay Marriage is only popular (if that) in Montgomery County among white liberals.
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Old 02-18-2012, 05:31 PM
 
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What if Gays were given their own State?

Any suggestions?

Alaska? too cold

Washington? too wet

Texass? just right
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Old 02-18-2012, 05:33 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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What if Gays were given their own State?

Any suggestions?

Alaska? too cold

Washington? too wet

Texass? just right
Uncool comment. While you're at with your attitude, you might as well suggest Blacks getting their own state.
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Old 02-18-2012, 05:35 PM
 
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While you're at, you might as well suggest Blacks getting their own state.
Are you a racist? Do they have to get state approval to Marry?

I guess the gay one's could move to Texas as well.
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Old 02-18-2012, 05:35 PM
 
Location: North America
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All they need is 55000. PG can easily get half of that number. They'll just set up tables after church at the mega churches. The other 27500 should come easily from the Eastern Shore, Southern Maryland and Western Maryland. Throw in the Blacks in Baltimore and Hispanics and Asians in Montgomery and Baltimore County this should be a slam dunk.

Gay Marriage is only popular (if that) in Montgomery County among white liberals.
Yep all for it to fail in a court challenge
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Old 02-18-2012, 05:39 PM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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I don't really get how such a liberal state as NJ is run by so many social conservative Republicans.

And Christie has absolutely zero comprehension on how rights are granted in the US. Hint: Not by popular vote.
As much as it may seem like it, rights are not as clear cut as people think. Even Jefferson said that as new generations come by new laws had to be instituted in order to reflect the new need of that generation, gay rights is one issue that is taking time just as women suffrage and abolition of slavery.

Actually, in this case the issue is being handle as the original intent of The Constitution. The issue is not enumerated as responsibility of Congress so it belongs to the states as expressed in the tenths ammendment.

The Constitution was written in such a form as a compromise the drafters agreed on. The compromise was that they did not create nation. They created a United States of America. They simply improved the Articles of Confederation by trying to close some gaps they realized later after the articles were approved. If you read closely the original intents when they got together in Philadelphia was to work on what they had, not write a new Constitution. Each states would handle issues as I mentioned before. Take care.
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Old 02-18-2012, 05:40 PM
 
Location: North America
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Maybe Prop 8 was a referendum that passed a law. This referendum will be to repeal a law. A different animal. Maryland residents have every right to repeal laws passed by their legislatures as long as they are not appropriations.
And residents have every right to challenge that repeal in court and overturn it . It's funny watching the winds of change blow against you conservatives for the first time, and you have little recourse . You are also wrong, since you have no clue what the question of the referendum will end up being, you don't know if it will be different or not .
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Old 02-18-2012, 05:42 PM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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Different scenario. We will be repealing a recently passed law which is constitutionally protected in the state constitution.

Anyway Prop 8 will be validated by SCOTUS. See you in November Dems.
Prop 8 case, if accepted by SCOTUS, will be ruled against because it clearly violates the 14th Amendment, equal protection of the law. Justice Kennedy ruled in the majority in romer v evans that the gov't cannot single out a group of ppl for different treatment under the law. It would be a complete reversal of his previous opinion, which he wrote in romer v evans. If the Scotus does not agree to hear the case, then the Appeals ruling will stand and voila, we will have same sex marriage equality in Calif again!!
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Old 02-18-2012, 05:43 PM
 
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And residents have every right to challenge that repeal in court and overturn it . It's funny watching the winds of change blow against you conservatives for the first time, and you have little recourse . You are also wrong, since you have no clue what the question of the referendum will end up being, you don't know if it will be different or not .
Not that i am a conservative, but you really think that this country is conservative?

Maybe 100 yrs ago. Pre Woodrow Wilson.

Progressive degeneration has turned this country into a cesspool of sensualism and acceptance of vile behaviours, in the name of freedom.

I'd say True Conservatism has been dead quite some time mate...
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Old 02-18-2012, 05:45 PM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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All they need is 55000. PG can easily get half of that number. They'll just set up tables after church at the mega churches. The other 27500 should come easily from the Eastern Shore, Southern Maryland and Western Maryland. Throw in the Blacks in Baltimore and Hispanics and Asians in Montgomery and Baltimore County this should be a slam dunk.

Gay Marriage is only popular (if that) in Montgomery County among white liberals.
I'm really starting to like white ppl a lot more.
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