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Old 04-16-2012, 08:55 PM
 
Location: Armsanta Sorad
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But it does seem like now that whites are paranoid of minorities today. Racist hate crimes are happening all over America especially in the South.
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I never said these were the glory days. I'm saying as a Black man, I prefer 2012 to 1950. I live in Georgia, not by choice, but as a college student with limited money, I'm here to stay until I graduate and get a job elsewhere. I'm registered to vote in Georgia. I can vote in every election, and it doesn't cost me anything. Back in 1950, I would have been denied the right to vote. Tonight I was visiting a friend who happen to be in town, who happens to be a White female. Course of interaction. She sees me, gives me a hug, we start talking about some things. Mind you, we were in public too. This would have never been able to take place in 1950. It could have gotten me killed. Now lets talk about schools. Blacks in the South were by force told they had to attend segregated schools. It was the law of the land. Often, schools for Black children were built with lesser quality and the textbooks they got were often hand-me-downs discarded from White schools. In the North, school segregation didn't exist in that manner, but another. It was on a neighborhood scale. In many places across the nation, Blacks were restricted from living in certain places because of the color of their skin. It came in the form of sundown towns, and restrictive covenants. Even in the best of times, Blacks were discriminated against more in 1950, when it came to jobs. The Black middle class was much smaller back then. I think about the life I live now. I can live anywhere I want. I can vote. I can go to school where I want. I can be friends with who I want. I can marry any woman of any race/ethnicity I so choose. I never said race relations were perfect. I'm saying that I have more freedom today than I would have in 1950.
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Old 04-16-2012, 09:12 PM
 
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I never said these were the glory days. I'm saying as a Black man, I prefer 2012 to 1950. I live in Georgia, not by choice, but as a college student with limited money, I'm here to stay until I graduate and get a job elsewhere. I'm registered to vote in Georgia. I can vote in every election, and it doesn't cost me anything. Back in 1950, I would have been denied the right to vote. Tonight I was visiting a friend who happen to be in town, who happens to be a White female. Course of interaction. She sees me, gives me a hug, we start talking about some things. Mind you, we were in public too. This would have never been able to take place in 1950. It could have gotten me killed. Now lets talk about schools. Blacks in the South were by force told they had to attend segregated schools. It was the law of the land. Often, schools for Black children were built with lesser quality and the textbooks they got were often hand-me-downs discarded from White schools. In the North, school segregation didn't exist in that manner, but another. It was on a neighborhood scale. In many places across the nation, Blacks were restricted from living in certain places because of the color of their skin. It
came in the form of sundown towns, and restrictive covenants. Even in the best of times, Blacks were discriminated against more in 1950, when it came to jobs. The Black middle class was much smaller back then. I think about the life I live now. I can live anywhere I want. I can vote. I can go to school where I want. I can be friends with who I want. I can marry any woman of any race/ethnicity I so choose. I never said race relations were perfect. I'm saying that I have more freedom today than I would have in 1950.
I don't disagree with anything you said, but I gather from what you wrote that you were not alive in the 1950s and are not speaking from personal experience. I agree that in rural areas in the 50s things were as you described. I also agree that throughout the country things in that respect are much better for blacks than they were in the 50s.
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Old 04-16-2012, 09:22 PM
 
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But it does seem like now that whites are paranoid of minorities today. Racist hate crimes are happening all over America especially in the South.
And where exactly do you live? I love it when people use the South as there favorite whipping boy. I happen to live in the South and haven't heard of any racist hate crimes other than in Tulsa, which last I checked wasn't in the South. If whites are paranoid of minorities it is because we have become so PC that we are afraid that we might be called "racist".
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Old 04-16-2012, 09:26 PM
 
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I don't disagree with anything you said, but I gather from what you wrote that you were not alive in the 1950s and are not speaking from personal experience. I agree that in rural areas in the 50s things were as you described. I also agree that throughout the country things in that respect are much better for blacks than they were in the 50s.
You're right. I wasn't alive in the 1950's. I am not writing from personal experience. I'm writing from a historical perspective. My perspective is knowing what I was taught in school, some of what my father has told me, and knowing what I can do in this day and age. I know what I have now. I also know what I would have been up against in 1950, especially living in Georgia.
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Old 04-16-2012, 09:46 PM
 
Location: Armsanta Sorad
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And where exactly do you live? I love it when people use the South as there favorite whipping boy. I happen to live in the South and haven't heard of any racist hate crimes other than in Tulsa, which last I checked wasn't in the South. If whites are paranoid of minorities it is because we have become so PC that we are afraid that we might be called "racist".
The Left. I could say that white people, even younger ones, nationwide are becoming more intolerant of their kind going with mates of others races.
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Old 04-16-2012, 09:55 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Cost less, my foot!

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1950: Food-34%, clothing 12%. And this was with a lot of women sewing their own clothes.

2002-3: Food-13%, clothing 4%.
Again, my mom said a paycheck went farther back then compared to the 1970s.
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Old 04-16-2012, 09:59 PM
 
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You're right. I wasn't alive in the 1950's. I am not writing from personal experience. I'm writing from a historical perspective. My perspective is knowing what I was taught in school, some of what my father has told me, and knowing what I can do in this day and age. I know what I have now. I also know what I would have been up against in 1950, especially living in Georgia.
I actually did go to an Atlanta public school in the 50s. I know that there were Atlanta public schools at that time that were black, but as you said was the case in the north, it was more neighborhoods. Knowing how public schools work I would find it hard to believe that there was a difference in textbooks. School district buy textbooks for the whole district, not individual schools. The school I went to was built in the 1920s and was not air conditioned. Our textbooks were also well used but serviceable. 94% of my graduating class went on to college and alumni include many doctors, lawyers, teachers, businessmen, as well as a federal judge, so I guess the worn books and old building didn't hurt too much. I did not go to a black school in Atlanta, I cannot speak to the conditions, but my feeling is that the disparities you speak of were probably more seen in rural areas than in a larger city like Atlanta.
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Old 04-16-2012, 10:04 PM
 
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The Left. I could say that white people, even younger ones, nationwide are becoming more intolerant of their kind going with mates of others races.
You actually seem to have a lot of hatred in your heart! A recent study revealed that interracial marriages had seen more increases in the South than in any other region of the country.
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Old 04-16-2012, 10:07 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Actually I don't agree that bullying is an age old problem. It was unheard of when I was in school, and since I was painfully shy and wore glasses I would have been a prime target if it were practiced. I recently asked my older sister if she thought that bullying occurred when we were in school and she agreed that it didn't. Maybe sexual abuse is age old but all I know is that I was so naive that in the 8th grade when I saw a "dirty" word on the bathroom wall I went home and asked my mother what it meant. As far as gays in the closet, I don't really want to know what you do in the bedroom, gay or straight. And if you think it is better then I guess we will just have to agree to disagree.
Are you serious? Unheard of? Things must have changed a lot in the six years between the time you went to school and I did. Human nature has NOT changed in all those years. You can ask every relative of yours anything but their responses are not the gold standard.

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Again, my mom said a paycheck went farther back then compared to the 1970s.
That's nostalgia talking. The statistics say otherwise.
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Old 04-16-2012, 10:07 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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As I said, ignorance IS bliss.
It sure is. Maybe that explains a lot of the posts of the anti-1950s people.

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Whether she wanted to or not. Again, whether she wanted to or not.
No, if she didn't want to, she wouldn't get married! Besides, my dad also knew how to cook and he did often. Especially around the holidays.
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