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Old 04-14-2012, 08:02 AM
 
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For Zimmerman`s sake his lawyer`s had better stay away from the topic of who`s done what in the past and who`s had dealings with the police.

 
Old 04-14-2012, 08:03 AM
 
Location: DFW
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We do not know that Trayvon smokes weed. In fact, he's not doing anything now; he is dead. The baggie found in his backpack, had marijuana residue. Even if he did smoke mj, he as a lot of company among 17 year olds, and people on this thread have admitted to same. He was "caught" with a screwdriver. If he was talking on the phone to his girlfriend, his demeanor (from a distance in the dark and rain), may have seemed "strange" to Zimmerman.
A screwdrive is considered a "Burglery Tool".

But I like many believe he attacked GZ and was hitting on him which makes it self defense. All it takes is 1 juror to feel the same way and right now I'd say it's 50 / 50 split.

It is a shame that young man was killed.
 
Old 04-14-2012, 08:04 AM
 
Location: Steeler Nation
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This is key. For all the yap about the "rash of burglaries" in the neighborhood, Trayvon was not in the act of committing one. He was on the phone, for Pete's sake!
Criminals carry cell phones also.
 
Old 04-14-2012, 08:09 AM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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A screwdrive is considered a "Burglery Tool".
Just like a box cutter is considered a "concealed weapon" in some states.

Just because something may be considered a tool for crime does not make its owner automatically a criminal.

Trayvon has no criminal record. Therefore, the "he had burglary tools and jewelry" argument really holds no water, especially in a court of law. Trayvon's not on trial here, it's Martin that's on trial.
 
Old 04-14-2012, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Just like a box cutter is considered a "concealed weapon" in some states.

Just because something may be considered a tool for crime does not make its owner automatically a criminal.

Trayvon has no criminal record. Therefore, the "he had burglary tools and jewelry" argument really holds no water, especially in a court of law. Trayvon's not on trial here, it's Martin that's on trial.
Lol so someone is caught with woman's jewelry and a screwdriver and it means nothing? Come on let's be a little objective here.

You're right though Trayvon is not on trial but it lends credence to what Zimmerman observed. The prosecution is saying that Zimmerman "profiled" him as a criminal. Thus his background is fair game.
 
Old 04-14-2012, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Keystone State
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The witnesses heard two male voices arguing then screams for help, then a shot. At least one witness puts Trayvon on top of George and George as the one who was screaming for help. What I'm wondering is HOW|WHY it escalated to a physical confrontation and who started the PHYSICAL fight? As I posted earlier, I theorize that TM saw that gun and attempted to relieve GW of it. You know the old adage "Fight or Flight"...TM in his young mind might have felt the only WAY out was to get that gun away from this "thug" who had been following him. He must of thought that if he turned his back or ran, he might be shot...

We'll never know those details for the obvious reasons...unless of course there is an "ear" witness who hasn't been revealed yet that heard the entire verbal exchange...

Again just my theories and speculation...
 
Old 04-14-2012, 09:01 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Default NRA, Walmart, ALEC, Koch brothers responsible for death of Trayvon Martin?

I don't think that any of these groups or people can be blamed, at all, for the boy's death but here is an article about a left leaning radio personality who has blamed all of them. It gets more and more humorous as time passes to see who gets blamed for that death.

Did You Know that Republicans, the NRA, and Wal-Mart Are Responsible for the Death of Trayvon Martin? - Godfather Politics
 
Old 04-14-2012, 09:05 AM
 
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So one guy blames a bunch of things on Martin's death and it's threadworthy? Umm,

29% of the country still thinks that bigfoot exists.

29% Of Americans Believe In Bigfoot | Stranger Dimensions

I'm not sure why posting one guy's whackjob opinions on here is worthy of a thread.
 
Old 04-14-2012, 09:22 AM
 
Location: NJ
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That one one guy is representative of the class warfare strategy and assignment of blame that the current administration and the media propagandists endorse and promote.

The convoluted logic is the common thread that links the site to the administration.
 
Old 04-14-2012, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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So one guy blames a bunch of things on Martin's death and it's threadworthy? Umm,

29% of the country still thinks that bigfoot exists.

29% Of Americans Believe In Bigfoot | Stranger Dimensions

I'm not sure why posting one guy's whackjob opinions on here is worthy of a thread.
It seems that you failed to see how many listeners Hartman has. I don't suppose any of them is anti-NRA or anti-Walmart but then they might be and well could be if they listen to someone like him daily. You make noises about people like Rush Limbaugh but he doesn't have more than a few times as many listeners than Hartmann has.

I love how you try to deflect from this one.
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