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No I'm not debating it but saying it's necessary for learning is just as bogus.
Having A/C doesn't factor into education levels attained.
It's a nice convenience but is not the cause of falling scores.
I never said lack of a/c is the cause of falling standardized test scores. That was YOUR illogical spin on my comment that heat/humidity CAN get so bad in many parts of the US that effective learning is just not possible for most students, who, in 2012, live most of their lives in climate contolled environments.
How about heat? Is that also a "nice convenience?"
I wonder when the Liberals, Unions, and school kids will begin painting Hitler mustaches on Rahm's face on protest signs while they protest against this obvious evil union-busting politician?
I am guessing this hatred towards the teachers on this thread is a bit misguided.
It makes sense to want to keep good teachers even if the school they teach at is closed down, also testing alone is not a great way to evaluate a student's growth.
jt, did you read your own links or did you just read the headlines. If you like I can highlight them later for you when I have more time, this is all from the first link.
According to these geniuses, higher pay means better teachers. Then how come education costs are through the roof, but education results are worse?
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What baloney.
The people who signed the other side of the union contracts, then left office with fat pensions of their own, and aren't sharing in the consequences at all.
I have to assume you were joking here. You were, weren't you?
Unfortunately, you're often correct about the bolded part.
I shouild have more accurately stated they all created the consequences, even though many escape the responsibility. It's no different in industry where management signs contracts knowing full well they'll be happily sipping martinis, cashing their pension checks while the contracts they signed cripple their former employers. In other words, blaming only unions is conveniently overlooking at least half of the root cause of the problem.
This is laughable. Here in New England many of the older schools have NO A/C. Students have gone to school for decades in schools with no A/C. People lived for centuries in warm climates with no A/C. And now, Chicago teachers want to complain about the lack of A/C in their schools?
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apples to bowling balls.
taxpayers are forced at gunpoint to pay teacher salaries, CEO's like athletes, are paid by the dollars of a willing consumer.
Taxpayers are forced to pay teacher salaries regardless of what they are. It's those who set those salries who create the problems (get a clue, it's not ONLY the union that does so).
This is laughable. Here in New England many of the older schools have NO A/C. Students have gone to school for decades in schools with no A/C. People lived for centuries in warm climates with no A/C. And now, Chicago teachers want to complain about the lack of A/C in their schools?
This is pathetic.
Have you been to Chicago in September? It's pretty damn hot and humid there. People are not used to being in hot, non-air conditioned buildings anymore. It's just not accepted anymore.
Maybe since schools were segregated for 100 years we should go back to that too?
Sometimes I wonder what planet some of you people are from
I wonder when the Liberals, Unions, and school kids will begin painting Hitler mustaches on Rahm's face on protest signs while they protest against this obvious evil union-busting politician?
Maybe they'll even force a recall election?
Now jt800, you just stop that! You know perfectly well your dry wit and scathing sarcasm is completely lost on these Libturds here at CD with their Kool Aid IV's.
Let's see. Murder capitol of the U.S. Out of control public union. Yeah, that's Chicago values Rahm. Rahm? Oh, Rahm? Oh, I forgot. At the moment, you are off with your Chicago values to raise money for another Chicago values politician.
After dropping your kids off at their private $25K a year school.
This isn't just about teachers' unions, the right cheers when CEOs and their ilk grab as much $$$ as they can, often while their companies performance don't justify it yet vilify unions for doing the same.
As I've said, it takes at keast TWO parfties to make a contract, blaming only one when things go awry is hypocritical BS.
Public versus private. Wouldn't expect a progressive to know the difference, though.
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