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No, the people that sign the other side of union contracts should mhave enough management skill to NOT sign contracts they KNOW can't be sustained. It takes at least TWO parties to make a contract, they ALL share in the consequences.
What baloney.
The people who signed the other side of the union contracts, then left office with fat pensions of their own, and aren't sharing in the consequences at all.
I have to assume you were joking here. You were, weren't you?
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Originally Posted by Frank DeForrest
dont forget the children when you bring up "consequences"
This isn't just about teachers' unions, the right cheers when CEOs and their ilk grab as much $$$ as they can, often while their companies performance don't justify it yet vilify unions for doing the same.
As I've said, it takes at keast TWO parfties to make a contract, blaming only one when things go awry is hypocritical BS.
This isn't just about teachers' unions, the right cheers when CEOs and their ilk grab as much $$$ as they can, often while their companies performance don't justify it yet vilify unions for doing the same.
As I've said, it takes at keast TWO parfties to make a contract, blaming only one when things go awry is hypocritical BS.
apples to bowling balls.
taxpayers are forced at gunpoint to pay teacher salaries, CEO's like athletes, are paid by the dollars of a willing consumer.
It's not like Chicago hasn't tried to cover paying for the school system. The city is wallowing in a $700 million deficit.
What do you do when you have no money and you have reached the cap on your taxes ?
You're $700 million in debt and your teachers want a double digit increase, small classes and more classes offered ?
CPS to raise property taxes to the legal maximum - Chicago Sun-Times
For the second year in a row, Chicago Public School officials under Mayor Rahm Emanuel will raise property taxes for schools to the maximum allowed by law, yielding the cash-strapped system $41 million.
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The $41 million in new revenue will help CPS plug an estimated deficit of up to $700 million — including $114 million in lost federal and state funds — just as it battles with teachers to replace a union contract that expires June 30.
I'll happily support your right to strike. I'll also support your employer's right to hire people to replace those on strike.
Especially in a case where it's taxpayer funded employees on strike. For far too many years pols have given the PE unions everything they could ask for, in return for campaign contributions and votes. For once, it's time that someone stood up for the taxpayer. I don't have a problem with teachers making decent wages, their job isn't easy. I think their wages and benefits should bear some relationship to those of the people paying their salaries.
I'm against corruption of ALL kinds but I will not let it affect my support for unions and workers rights.
I'm glad I don't live in some right to work state. Here in Minnesota union people have rights, as do employers. Arbitrators are neutral and non-political and we have gotten our butts kicked by them many times.
But they cannot just replace us because we strike. That is as un-American as it gets IMO.
Taking away union rights is just as bad or worse than taking away firearms.
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