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And you know that how? Clairvoyance? Having a gun at the least allowed his to stop a vicious assault, and may in fact have kept him alive.
Zimmerman would have taken a beating...He would not have died. I doubt very much that Martin who is portrayed as being semi-smart would have bashed out his brains...
The gun made the whole altercation go south. What would have been a common street fight with a faster younger kid punching out an out of shape fat older guy would have ended with an assault charge against Martin - And who knows...maybe getting charged with assault would have been a positive turning point in Martin's life?
Zimmerman was "patrolling" with confidence...false confidence - the kind that a gun ensures. If Zimmerman was not armed he would have called 911...and stood down...it was that damned gun that gave the fat little coward the confidence to advance and continue to follow....I say this is a good example of proving wrong that "guns don't kill people - people kill people" In this case the gun killed Martin...Zimmerman was merely holding it like an idiot.
"After taking an airplane ride two years ago, Trayvon decided he wanted to learn to fly," his uncle Ronald Fulton said. The teen attended a Miami aviation school part time and was studying to be an engineer, a path to realizing his ambition, Fulton said.
Math was Trayvon's favorite subject.
He liked to tinker, and he was good with his hands. He once took apart and repaired a broken scooter, Fulton said, and he liked to construct model cars and airplanes and draw pictures of things he wanted to build.
"He was extremely creative," said Michelle Kypriss, Trayvon's English teacher at Dr. Michael M. Krop Senior High School in Miami. "He just loved building things. He really was intrigued by how things worked."
She described Trayvon, a junior, as an A and B student who majored in cheerfulness. Trayvon was under a five-day suspension when he was shot, but Kypriss said it was due to tardiness and not misbehavior.
"Trayvon was not a violent or dangerous child. He was not known for misbehaving," the teacher said. "He was suspended because he was late too many times."
His uncle said Trayvon was still a typical kid who loved sports, music and was just feeling the first flush of youth. "He was trying to start driving. He was just finding out about girls."
Trayvon was close to his 21-year-old brother Jahvaris, also of Miami, and assisted his uncle, a quadriplegic, on outings to University of Miami basketball games."
[originally posted by Ibginnie]
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It seems like a good time to repost this; why is it that some posters simply cannot maintain a sense of civility, much less one of common decency? Harassing and rudeness are TABOO on this thread, and keep in mind that the character assassination of a kid who'd been 17 for two damn weeks who is DEAD is the lowest level of social interaction possible. He was killed simply walking home from the convenience store, for God's sake. George Zimmerman killed him and is on trial for that...Trayvon Martin is not alive to testify about the fear he experienced in the last minutes of his life. As another poster said, there is a karmic law, and some folks are going to get a jolt from the universe for their lack of sheer humanity. This thread went well today, but apparently some posters only learn by rote, so the moderator's words should be posted daily, apparently. Frankly, some posters should be ashamed of themselves for behaving like middle school bullies. It's just plain disgusting. Discuss the trial, not other posters or groups of people. Ibginnie is right...grow up and get over it.
I couldn't REP you....Thank you for saying what needs to be said.
why do most people want a gun? it isn't something I want or need. yet many people have one. they live very safe lives yet still feel the need to own.
Did you just make a blanket statement stating that everyone lives very safe lives? Not everyone lives in the utopia that apparently you do.
People own for many reasons.... Hunting, target shooting, competitive shooting. Many college scholarships have been awarded for shooting. United States has an Olympic shooting team.
According to the New York Times Trayvon Martin was "a hard worker who earned extra money by painting houses, and washing cars and working in the concession of the Pee Wee football league on the weekends. He also baby-sat for his younger cousins, two adorable little girls ages 3 and 7, whom the family called the bunnies, and when he watched the girls he baked them cookies."
"After taking an airplane ride two years ago, Trayvon decided he wanted to learn to fly," his uncle Ronald Fulton said. The teen attended a Miami aviation school part time and was studying to be an engineer, a path to realizing his ambition, Fulton said.
Math was Trayvon's favorite subject.
He liked to tinker, and he was good with his hands. He once took apart and repaired a broken scooter, Fulton said, and he liked to construct model cars and airplanes and draw pictures of things he wanted to build.
"He was extremely creative," said Michelle Kypriss, Trayvon's English teacher at Dr. Michael M. Krop Senior High School in Miami. "He just loved building things. He really was intrigued by how things worked."
She described Trayvon, a junior, as an A and B student who majored in cheerfulness. Trayvon was under a five-day suspension when he was shot, but Kypriss said it was due to tardiness and not misbehavior.
"Trayvon was not a violent or dangerous child. He was not known for misbehaving," the teacher said. "He was suspended because he was late too many times."
His uncle said Trayvon was still a typical kid who loved sports, music and was just feeling the first flush of youth. "He was trying to start driving. He was just finding out about girls."
Trayvon was close to his 21-year-old brother Jahvaris, also of Miami, and assisted his uncle, a quadriplegic, on outings to University of Miami basketball games."
Nope. This was after they hired Ryan Julison ... and I believe most of it is less than truthful.
Why? For starters even the family confirmed later that his last suspension was due to marijuana residue in a baggie.
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