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Old 07-08-2013, 10:04 PM
 
Location: The Golden State, USA
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The difference between Zimmerman and OJ is that people know for fact that Zimmerman killed Martin. I'm sure that there are some very angry and maybe even crazy vigilante types out there who want justice for Trayvon Martin's family. I'm sure he and OJ will get death threats for the rest of their lives. Is every woman who kills the person who abused her feral? How about the man who shot Lee Harvey Oswald? How about those who kill their child's molester or killer? Are they feral too? It happens. It seems to me that Zimmerman supporters are the violent animals though. They are the ones applauding Zimmerman for killing a teenager who was doing nothing but walking back from 7-11.

 
Old 07-08-2013, 10:06 PM
 
Location: DFW
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How many times would you let your head hit the cement before you believed you might suffer brain damage?
I've seen people get concussions without getting any bloody cuts at all.
This was in the news a few days ago. Apparently it only takes 1 punch and a concrete slab to kill a man.

Who does the boy look like ?

Teen convicted in videotaped beating death in West Rogers Park - chicagotribune.com

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One of the teens, Malik Jones, now 17, announced, "I think I'm gonna knock out this (expletive)," and then started the video recorder on his cellphone. The phone ended up in Malcolm's hands, prosecutors said, before Jones punched Mora once in the jaw. Mora fell and struck his head on concrete.
 
Old 07-08-2013, 10:19 PM
 
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All the evidence points to his head having hit the pavement maybe once or twice. There are many things he could have done other than scream and shoot, he could have told Trayvon the police were on their way, he could have fought back physically instead of with lethal force, he could have screamed out 'I'm with Neighborhood Watch!" He lost his head, and an unarmed boy paid the price, and that's not right.
This has been bothering me since the beginning. GZ had ample time and opportunities to tell TM who he was. Even at the moment when he claims that TM asked him if "he had a problem", why did GZ reply with merely "No, I don't have a problem"? Wasn't that another perfect time to tell TM who he was???
 
Old 07-08-2013, 10:21 PM
 
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If you believe her, how do you think the fight started? What was said? Who put their hands on who first?
I'm wondering how you know these things because the prosecution has done a lousy job of painting this picture.

I believe Rachel's testimony.

She said that Zimmerman came up behind Trayvon. If that's true, I think a punch in the face was justified.

I believe her testimony about what was said.

After that, it seems like Trayvon was getting the better of Zimmerman during the struggle, but I think Zimmerman was reaching for his gun or trying to, the whole time. That would explain his lack of self-defense injuries.

Even I, as a woman would be fighting back with my arms and legs, if someone were attacking me as Trayvon supposedly did. Zimmerman testified his hands were free, and that Trayvon was crouched so low over him that there was nothing but a crevice between them. In that position, you could try to gouge your opponent in the eyes, or scratch their face. Believe me, I'd have that other person's blood under my fingernails.
 
Old 07-08-2013, 10:27 PM
 
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This has been bothering me since the beginning. GZ had ample time and opportunities to tell TM who he was. Even at the moment when he claims that TM asked him if "he had a problem", why did GZ reply with merely "No, I don't have a problem"? Wasn't that another perfect time to tell TM who he was???
It was, but George's one friend, the one who's always on TV,suggested Trayvon punched George before he could say that, although George has never made that comment to the police. But he had 3 opportunities: when he first saw Trayvon, when Trayvon approached his truck, and then when they finally encountered each other for the last time.

Apparently at least one of George's windows on his truck was down, because he described how he rolled up the windows as Trayvon approached. Sure, if you're so scared, roll them up but allow an inch at the top, and yell out "I'm with Neighborhood Watch? Do you live here?" --- would have taken all of 2 seconds.
 
Old 07-08-2013, 10:27 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Why threaten violence and riots if Zimmerman is acquitted?

There's an old saying (and evil) : He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing.

And that is what this is about - power. The threat to destroy, absent a legitimate cause, shows that they can wield power over the servant government and overturn the system of justice by instigating riots.

Is this the kind of democracy that Americans want?
Whoever fields the larger mob, wins?
 
Old 07-08-2013, 10:31 PM
 
Location: My little patch of Earth
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Several posters on this forum could prosecute this case FAR more effectively.
Perhaps in a kangaroo court. But not in a court of evidence.
 
Old 07-08-2013, 10:33 PM
 
Location: My little patch of Earth
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It was, but George's one friend, the one who's always on TV,suggested Trayvon punched George before he could say that, although George has never made that comment to the police. But he had 3 opportunities: when he first saw Trayvon, when Trayvon approached his truck, and then when they finally encountered each other for the last time.

Apparently at least one of George's windows on his truck was down, because he described how he rolled up the windows as Trayvon approached. Sure, if you're so scared, roll them up but allow an inch at the top, and yell out "I'm with Neighborhood Watch? Do you live here?" --- would have taken all of 2 seconds.
2 seconds, the same amount of time TM would have used to dial 9-1-1 but he called his girlfriend in stead.

Go figure.
 
Old 07-08-2013, 10:36 PM
 
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Why threaten violence and riots if Zimmerman is acquitted?

There's an old saying (and evil) : He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing.

And that is what this is about - power. The threat to destroy, absent a legitimate cause, shows that they can wield power over the servant government and overturn the system of justice by instigating riots.

Is this the kind of democracy that Americans want?
Whoever fields the larger mob, wins?
Don't you think that describes the history of race relations in the U.S. and the death of Trayvon Martin?
 
Old 07-08-2013, 10:41 PM
 
Location: West Michigan
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Why threaten violence and riots if Zimmerman is acquitted?

There's an old saying (and evil) : He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing.

And that is what this is about - power. The threat to destroy, absent a legitimate cause, shows that they can wield power over the servant government and overturn the system of justice by instigating riots.

Is this the kind of democracy that Americans want?
Whoever fields the larger mob, wins?
Exactly who is threatening violence and riots if Zimmerman is acquitted? Apparently I didn't get that memo from who ever "they" are in your fear-mongering life.
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