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Because it's THEIR businesses. Forcing a owner to do something is also discrimination!!
No I wouldn't be in uproar. I'd feel exactly the same.
The business owner pays the bills and assumes the risk of being in business. They should be allowed to run it as they please.
No, it's not discrimination. It's the law.
You want to live in the United States, take advantage of all the benefits that come with same -- court systems, security, access to government backed loans, an educated work force, roads and transport systems, product safety guarantees... then guess what? You have to submit to its laws.
And because people of all stripes pay taxes to support the aforementioned apparatus that keeps the economy going strong and provides business confidence and security... you have to treat everyone equal.
Don't like it, start a private club and choose to sell your wares only to people who join the private club.
The business owner pays the bills and assumes the risk of being in business. They should be allowed to run it as they please.
Yeah, well, good luck overturning several decades of equal protection laws that ensure all citizens are treated equally by people who hold themselves out to the public as providers of public accommodation, goods and services.
You, Rand Paul and the 1% of Americans who support your contrary view can start a petition or something.
Cakes do not have sexual orientations. Cakes are cakes.
well I could get into arguing but can't be arguing all the time. On another issue with this even in the broadest sense of a refusal to bake a cake would be a fine not to exceed the value of the cake. And limits to avoid malicious targeting. If that needs explaining it would only be another argument so Ive gotta go anyway. The entrapment in this issue is an infraction against the reasonable enjoyment of the day by conspiring to take what has nothing to do with the need for a wedding cake. A deliberate disruption of the peace.
Do you have any examples where you might disagree with your own statement? If you step back from the homophobia for a minute, you might. How about cleanliness or safety issues with food or transportation related business? Do you think it is discrimination to force airlines to maintain their aircraft?
No homophobia here.
Of course not. Those are SAFETY standards!
That is part of the business plan when deciding to go into such business!
You don't go into the food industry not knowing the food inspectors will probably show up!
You want to live in the United States, take advantage of all the benefits that come with same -- court systems, security, access to government backed loans, an educated work force, roads and transport systems, product safety guarantees... then guess what? You have to submit to its laws.
And because people of all stripes pay taxes to support the aforementioned apparatus that keeps the economy going strong and provides business confidence and security... you have to treat everyone equal.
Don't like it, start a private club and choose to sell your wares only to people who join the private club.
And the LAW is discrimination against the business owner!
Of course not. Those are SAFETY standards!
That is part of the business plan when deciding to go into such business!
You don't go into the food industry not knowing the food inspectors will probably show up!
You don't go into ANY business thinking you can discriminate against who you serve on account of race, sex, religion... and in some states, sexuality.
Been like that for decades. Most businesses get a long just fine. Only the bigots and those whose brains have been short circuited by religious garbage seem to have a problem.
You don't go into ANY business thinking you can discriminate against who you serve on account of race, sex, religion... and in some states, sexuality.
Been like that for decades. Most businesses get a long just fine. Only the bigots and those whose brains have been short circuited by religious garbage seem to have a problem.
Why do you think its ok to make other people live by YOUR ideals? I do feel its ok to have laws shoved down others throats yet you don't want laws of the opposite??
Why shouldn't a lesbian be allowed to open a business for lesbians only?
Are there actually people in this thread claiming that exposing intolerance is intolerant? Bizarro world we live in. All the hate from people talking about freedom and rights makes me think they are totally disconnected from reality. It's sad really...
I'm fine with you exposing it. If some business gives you lousy service (or in this case no service) tell all your friends. Write a negative review.
The problem is getting the government to punish people for their views.
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