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Old 10-12-2013, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Camberville
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Sorry to have to inform you these were not Christians, I know blah, blah I knew someone would say this! Christians don't display hate by burning a Cross. Who in their right love of Jesus would display hate like this and claim they're Christian. Jesus was about authority, not culture or skin color. These people we're and are clearly misguided as many are, you and your family would not experience this from true children of Christ.

You do know crosses have been used for centuries through different cultures at once it was a symbol of life............corruption of it all with two pieces of wood.
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/9071/...071-h.htm#CH17



Most who say they believe in Christ really don't get this one important versus.......
Jesus said to them. ‘Can you drink the cup I am going to drink?’
Oh, the no true Scotsman fallacy. My favorite. Sure, not everyone is burning a cross on my lawn, but that was just one example. Was my entire community not Christian because of the way I was treated growing up? Not likely.
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Old 10-12-2013, 09:54 AM
 
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That's just plain nonsense. It is persecution when the hypocrites allow all other religious celebrations to be called by their true names rather than some generic term.

LMAO

we're talking about a period of several holidays, wherein the big controversy is saying "Happy Holidays"

MEANING that all those other religious celebrations held during that time also fall under the same greeting.

Let me update the last question I asked you, when was the last time you heard someone say Happy Chanukah to some random stranger?
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Old 10-12-2013, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Camberville
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So, all they have to say is "I am not a Christian". Why be offended by it when it is a national holiday also?
Why be offended by "Happy holidays"? Hell, even a Christian celebrates at least 2 holidays that month - Christmas and New Years. Two holidays. Happy HOLIDAYS.
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Old 10-12-2013, 09:57 AM
 
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Are you even paying attention?

First, I asked the direct question of has anyone ever told you that you shouldn't say Merry Christmas?

Second in the same post that you quoted I explained that I do say Merry Christmas.

Third, as has been pointed out several times when people say "Happy Holidays" it's usually a greeting given over a period wherein SEVERAL holidays are celebrated.

As to your point of saying "What's the difference with Christmas?" I'm curious, how would you feel if you were at a store and someone said "Happy Chanukah?"
Would you be offended?
Yes, as a matter of fact I have been told that someone was offended because I wished them a Merry Christmas and I had no knowledge that they weren't Christians. If they were looking for the generic term of "Happy Holidays" instead then they were barking up the wrong tree.

No, I would not be offended if someone wished me a Happy Chanukah without knowing that I am not Jewish. I would however not make a big deal out of it.
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Old 10-12-2013, 09:58 AM
 
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[quote=charolastra00;31779768]Why be offended by "Happy holidays"? Hell, even a Christian celebrates at least 2 holidays that month - Christmas and New Years. Two holidays. Happy HOLIDAYS.[/quote

Because those who refuse to say Merry Christmas are doing so usually because they don't like the idea behind the celebration.
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Old 10-12-2013, 10:05 AM
 
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Yes, as a matter of fact I have been told that someone was offended because I wished them a Merry Christmas and I had no knowledge that they weren't Christians. If they were looking for the generic term of "Happy Holidays" instead then they were barking up the wrong tree.

No, I would not be offended if someone wished me a Happy Chanukah without knowing that I am not Jewish. I would however not make a big deal out of it.
Then why are you offended by Happy Holidays?

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Why be offended by "Happy holidays"? Hell, even a Christian celebrates at least 2 holidays that month - Christmas and New Years. Two holidays. Happy HOLIDAYS.[/quote

Because those who refuse to say Merry Christmas are doing so usually because they don't like the idea behind the celebration.
Not even a little bit true (saying that those people USUALLY do it for this reason). But even for those who this is true, why would you be offended by someone who is not of your same beliefs extending a wish of good tidings to you?
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Old 10-12-2013, 10:24 AM
 
Location: New Mexico
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I disagree. If you are not going to celebrate Christmas for the reason why it is a holiday then why even celebrate at all? Good will and family gatherings can be celebrated at any other time of the year.
You're right. The midwinter holiday should not be called Christmas. Jesus followers can make up another holiday and let this return to its roots.
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Old 10-12-2013, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Deep Dirty South
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I say "Merry Christmas" all the time. I'm not even a believer. I call it what it is. Christmas traditions have many roots in pre-Christian pagan beliefs anyway.

I have no problem with "Happy Holidays" as there are many cultures (many of which are practiced by plenty of Americans) that have Wintertime and end of year celebrations, religious and otherwise, but I don't find "Merry Christmas" the least bit offensive.

Even not being a Christian, I recognize and enjoy the spirit behind Christmas: things like fellowship, giving, selflessness, etc.
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Old 10-12-2013, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Because those who refuse to say Merry Christmas are doing so usually because they don't like the idea behind the celebration.
I simply refuse to say merry Christmas for the ENTIRE month of December. I say happy holidays up until it is Christmas or a few days before Christmas.
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Old 10-12-2013, 11:39 AM
 
Location: Type 0.73 Kardashev
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I disagree. If you are not going to celebrate Christmas for the reason why it is a holiday then why even celebrate at all? Good will and family gatherings can be celebrated at any other time of the year.
Because its a family tradition.

Because I want to do so.

Because it's a federal and state and company holiday, so everyone is available for the celebration that I enjoy.

And because I don't give a damn whether you like what I do or not.
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