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Old 11-09-2013, 01:53 AM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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The new covenant means that Jesus sacrifice on the cross, his blood, covered
our sins. We died and rose with him.
Not much of a sacrifice, since he knew he wasn't going to stay dead.

 
Old 11-09-2013, 01:55 AM
 
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Are you going to deny that these people are Godless? Most of them mock God on a daily basis on here. Are you saying you haven't noticed this? Are you blind?

Self-righteous, no. Righteous in Christs eyes.
"Consider Abraham: He believd God, and it was credited to him as righteousness. Understand, then, that those who believe are children of Abraham, The scripture foresaw that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, and announced the Gospel in advance to Abraham: "All nations will be blessed through you." So those who have faith are blessed along with Abraham, the man of faith.


You mean the same 'righteous man of faith' Abraham who had several wives and kept a bunch of concubines for sex? The same Abraham who was going to slit his son's throat as a sacrifice?

Yeah... that's a good example.
 
Old 11-09-2013, 02:21 AM
 
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God has a standard , one can choose to meet that standard or ignore that standard.
Apparently your god's 'standard' included condoning slavery, mass murder, kidnapping and rape of young virgin girls etc.

I choose to far exceed the standards of the god depicted in the Bible, not lower my standards to those in the Bible.
 
Old 11-09-2013, 02:31 AM
 
Location: The Brat Stop
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Somebody please more this thread to the religion forum, the wheels fell off of it.
 
Old 11-09-2013, 02:41 AM
 
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Agreed, it's sad they think that way. I agree with you that advocating killing anyone, treating anyone as second class citizens or persecuting them unnecessarily is wrong. UNLESS they are promoting pedophilia by trying to convince us innocent infants are "born that way". Of course we have many types of dangerous people

Those people have no right to be in society. Except locked up undergoing extensive therapy. The gays started this "born that way" which is also the mindset of a Child Molester obviously. They shouldn't be around babies, especially during diapering. Anyone who promotes this sickness doesn't deserve to have the opportunity to hurt another innocent being.

Anyone who can view an innocent baby as desiring perverted sex, or having an incling to such, needs to be locked up. Until they can prove a healthy mindset which allows for the safety of everyone, especially infants and children.
When people say that humans are born heterosexual or homosexual etc they are not saying that babies 'desire sex' or are sexual. They mean that sexual orientation is 'pre-wired' in the fetal brain while still in the womb. Sexual orientation doesn't usually become apparent for most people until after puberty when the release of hormones are triggered by that original 'wiring' and the body starts to mature.


Sexual hormones and the brain: an essential alliance for sexual identity and sexual orientation (2010)
Endocr Dev. 2010;17:22-35. Epub 2009 Nov 24. Garcia-Falgueras A, Swaab DF.
The fetal brain develops during the intrauterine period in the male direction through a direct action of testosterone on the developing nerve cells, or in the female direction through the absence of this hormone surge. In this way, our gender identity (the conviction of belonging to the male or female gender) and sexual orientation are programmed or organized into our brain structures when we are still in the womb.

There is no indication that social environment after birth has an effect on gender identity or sexual orientation.

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Old 11-09-2013, 02:45 AM
 
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No one is defined as "gay" because they are attracted to the opposite sex.

No one is a smoker unless they smoke, no one is a drunk unless they drink, etc..
By that logic no-one is heterosexual unless they are having sex.

So what is your sexual orientation when you are doing the shopping?
 
Old 11-09-2013, 03:24 AM
 
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Are you going to deny that these people are Godless? Most of them mock God on a daily basis on here. Are you saying you haven't noticed this? Are you blind?

Self-righteous, no. Righteous in Christs eyes.
"Consider Abraham: He believd God, and it was credited to him as righteousness. Understand, then, that those who believe are children of Abraham, The scripture foresaw that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, and announced the Gospel in advance to Abraham: "All nations will be blessed through you." So those who have faith are blessed along with Abraham, the man of faith.

All who rely on observing the law are under a curse, for it is written: "Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law." Clearly, no one is justified before God by the Law, because, "The righteous will live by faith." — Galatians 3: 6-11
Lot (Abraham's nephew) was also a "righteous" man. He offered up his 2 young virgin daughters to be gang raped. Then later he had drunken sex with them and impregnated them.

Great examples of "righteous" "men of faith".

Not surprising that internet porn has it's biggest sales to 'men of faith' in the Bible Belt states.

Also not surprising that so many "Christians" used to use 'scripture' to justify slavery.
 
Old 11-09-2013, 03:50 AM
 
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why should we put gays to death? we'd have no one to mock and ridicule.
 
Old 11-09-2013, 03:53 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Not all Christians are closed minded ignorant bigots who misuse the Bible.
I don't misuse the Bible either. The Bible is unambiguous on the issue of homosexuality, and no one who is a practicing homosexual has any business being any kind of leader in a Christian church. It is no different than a prostitute, drunkard, wife beater, or other abuser being allowed to lead.

I see a lot of misuse of the Bible from people trying to justify their behavior. One person on this forum went so far as to try to tell me that the Bible had nothing to say about homosexuality at all!
 
Old 11-09-2013, 03:58 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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How do you know it isn't?
I don't. But I consider the source. It is suspect.
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