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Old 06-10-2014, 02:42 PM
 
Location: MS
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That is an excellent question. Let me ask you something, please. Are you truly open to having a respectful discussion of options? Or is this doomed to be a futile battle of intransigent ideology that will go absolutely nowhere? Because that's usually the outcome of things here at P&OC, and, frankly, I'm just not in the mood. I have wasted enough time here today already.
Look at my past posts. I do what I can to break your argument with facts. I keep emotion out of the discussion.
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Old 06-10-2014, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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This time in Oregon. The Second Amendment bites again. Had enough America? I didn't think so.
Cops: Shooter dead at Oregon high school - CBS News

Blaming the Second Amendment neither addresses nor solves the problem. Instead, it simply re-energizes the "do something" crowd.
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Old 06-10-2014, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Society needs to be asking WHY this is happening.
Guns aren't new to America.

Because if you don't find out WHY it will continue to get worse with more being reported.
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Old 06-10-2014, 02:43 PM
 
Location: The D-M-V area
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Background checks, licensing, and tracking of guns. It's as simple as that. It's sensible, it wouldn't stop law abiding people from having guns. People have a right to vote...but the government administrates it.

The problem is that the element that actually REALLY pushes the current situation is the element that believes it is or will be at war with the government. It's a fringe-nut belief system that somehow has been bought into by far too man people who aren't fringe-nuts in their everyday lives. This fringe-nut belief system has enabled nuts to get their hands on guns far to easily.


And yeah, a stilleto shoe is as dangerous as a glock.

I can't give that thought process the only reasonable response it deserves, which is an insult.

My point is that anything can be a weapon in the hands of a person who wants to use it to harm someone.

Anything.

There's also poison.
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Old 06-10-2014, 02:43 PM
 
Location: The analog world
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Look at my past posts. I do what I can to break your argument with facts. I keep emotion out of the discussion.
So, in other words, no. I'll take that as my cue to move on with my day. Thanks.
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Old 06-10-2014, 02:45 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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This time in Oregon. The Second Amendment bites again. Had enough America? I didn't think so.

Cops: Shooter dead at Oregon high school - CBS News


yes folks, more murders in the gun free zones courtesy of the federal government and mainly the democrat party. when will people realize that criminals will never follow the law and continue to break them when they want to commit murder upon our children. better to arm staff and give the staff the tools to help defend our children.
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Old 06-10-2014, 02:45 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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So, in other words, no. I'll take that as my cue to move on with my day. Thanks.
Actually the poster was telling you that they don't fall into the blame game or name calling.
They debate with facts and keep emotion OUT of the debate.

I would consider that respectful.
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Old 06-10-2014, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Cayman Islands
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This time in Oregon. The Second Amendment bites again. Had enough America? I didn't think so.

Cops: Shooter dead at Oregon high school - CBS News
Yes, I read about this earlier! This is terribly sad and a lot to take in! The schools in my country are getting pretty bad themselves these days, I keep hoping it isn't a matter of time before it begins happening here too!
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Old 06-10-2014, 02:46 PM
 
Location: The D-M-V area
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Nevermind the shooting in Las Vegas last weekend.

Has a sane person ever gone on a shooting spree?

It would be nice to simply cut through all the crap and just keep guns out of the hands of crazy people, but we can't keep guns out of ANYBODY'S HANDS in this country. So sadly this kind of thing will never stop, and there's no solution.
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Old 06-10-2014, 02:46 PM
 
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Please take your guns with you. Thanks.
how many guns did timothy mcveigh use again? oh that's right.
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