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Old 07-21-2014, 07:38 PM
 
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The National Guard was created for emergencies, not turning kids away from the border. What is a national guardsman going to do, are they going to line up every 100 yards and stay there full time. What is Perry's master plan.

By the way is this the same person that was running for election back in 2011 that said "If you say that we should not educate children who have come into our state for no other reason than they've been brought there by no fault of their own, I don't think you have a heart.”
Yep, this is nothing more than grandstanding at its finest. It works on the wingnuts though, as evidenced by the responses in this thread. So it accomplishes his goal, even thought it will achieve nothing real.
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Old 07-21-2014, 07:43 PM
 
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Natl. Guard on the border? YAY! Thats what they're for.
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Old 07-21-2014, 07:57 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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The National Guard was created for emergencies, not turning kids away from the border. What is a national guardsman going to do, are they going to line up every 100 yards and stay there full time. What is Perry's master plan.

By the way is this the same person that was running for election back in 2011 that said "If you say that we should not educate children who have come into our state for no other reason than they've been brought there by no fault of their own, I don't think you have a heart.”
The following is happening on the border.

We have large numbers of members of the gang MS-13 coming into this nation.

We have few border patrol agents on duty to do them taking care of illegals while the cartel are running more drugs and illegals across the border then ever before.

We have cartel snipers using suppressing sniper fire to pin down border patrols agents so they can not stop them from running drugs and illegals across the border.

We have person who are from Yemen, Iraq, Afghanistan and other nations that are know to house terrorism.

We have could he a hundred thousand more person who could be carrying drug resistant TB and other drug resistant diseases into this nation, along with more gang members and more person from the middle east.

If you do not see that as a emergencies, and think it is just kids..You are beyond help.

Build a fence.

Fly the ones we have back.

End Birthright citizenship.

Stop all welfare programs to illegals.
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Old 07-21-2014, 08:13 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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The following is happening on the border.

We have large numbers of members of the gang MS-13 coming into this nation.

We have few border patrol agents on duty to do them taking care of illegals while the cartel are running more drugs and illegals across the border then ever before.

We have cartel snipers using suppressing sniper fire to pin down border patrols agents so they can not stop them from running drugs and illegals across the border.

We have person who are from Yemen, Iraq, Afghanistan and other nations that are know to house terrorism.

We have could he a hundred thousand more person who could be carrying drug resistant TB and other drug resistant diseases into this nation, along with more gang members and more person from the middle east.

If you do not see that as a emergencies, and think it is just kids..You are beyond help.

Build a fence.

Fly the ones we have back.

End Birthright citizenship.

Stop all welfare programs to illegals.
Just more overstatement and dramatics those are not terrorists or MS-13 gangs for the most part, just people that were escaping gangs, death and poverty. How many border agents have been killed this month by Cartels.

Please stop with the build a fence, not a solution.
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Old 07-21-2014, 08:21 PM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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Nice try but illegals are illegals.. Doesn't matter if they are from Mexico or France.. Send them all home and let them migrate according to the laws of our country. You know, like legal immigrants do every day. I have lived on the border most of my life and it's not "the poor children" that are coming across. There are children and there are also criminals. Organized criminals that kidnap, extort, rape, murder and commit countless crimes that we all have to pay for in one way or the other. There was a time in my life when I had a great deal of compassion for illegals. That has changed as has the type of illegals that are now crossing our borders. It's not about money,, it's about public safety. The safety of every man woman and child in this country. This invasion has to be brought to a stop and those who have already invaded need to be returned to their homeland, regardless of where that may be.
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Old 07-21-2014, 08:24 PM
 
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Nice try but illegals are illegals.. Doesn't matter if they are from Mexico or France.. Send them all home and let them migrate according to the laws of our country. You know, like legal immigrants do every day. I have lived on the border most of my life and it's not "the poor children" that are coming across. There are children and there are also criminals. Organized criminals that kidnap, extort, rape, murder and commit countless crimes that we all have to pay for in one way or the other. There was a time in my life when I had a great deal of compassion for illegals. That has changed as has the type of illegals that are now crossing our borders. It's not about money,, it's about public safety. The safety of every man woman and child in this country. This invasion has to be brought to a stop and those who have already invaded need to be returned to their homeland, regardless of where that may be.
Sure is easy to say when your ancestors just had to show up at Ellis Island to come here "legally". (They also committed mass genocide of the locals.) It takes YEARS to go through the "legal" process today...

(Assuming you are not Native American.)
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Old 07-21-2014, 08:26 PM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Is this good idea ?





AUSTIN, Texas (AP) — Gov. Rick Perry is deploying up to 1,000 National Guard troops to the Texas-Mexico border over the next month to combat what he said Monday were criminals exploiting a surge of children pouring into the U.S. illegally.





Perry, a vocal critic of the White House's response to the border crisis who is himself mulling a second presidential run, said the state has a responsibility to act after "lip service and empty promises" from Washington.
"I will not stand idly by while our citizens are under assault and little children from Central America are detained in squalor," the governor said.
The deployment of National Guard troops, which may act in a law enforcement capacity under state authority, will cost Texas an estimated $12 million per month. They will simply be "referring and deterring" immigrants and not detaining people, Texas Adjutant General John Nichols said. But he added that the National Guard could take people into custody if need be.
"We think they'll come to us and say, 'Please take us to a Border Patrol station," Nichols said.
Messages seeking comment were left with the U.S. Customs and Border Protection.
Perry bristled at suggestions from some Democratic state lawmakers and business groups that his move means Texas is militarizing is southern border


Perry sending National Guard troops to border
How is this meant to address "little children from Central America detained in squalor?"
Is the National Guard going to free them and do what with them?

Oh, well. Leave it Gov. Perry to put on a show now that the number of refugees has fallen dramatically.
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Old 07-21-2014, 08:32 PM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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Sure is easy to say when your ancestors just had to show up at Ellis Island to come here "legally". (They also committed mass genocide of the locals.) It takes YEARS to go through the "legal" process today...

(Assuming you are not Native American.)
I know full well what it takes to come into this country legally. I have lived with legal immigrants as well as illegals all of my life.. As for my ancestry, I am Cherokee. We didn't have to come through Ellis Island.
I will concede that the process for entry into this country needs to be streamlined and less intrusive, but, at the same time it doesn't need to be a complete open door policy either. Before this can occur however, our borders need to be secured and current illegals in this country removed and repatriated with their nation of origin.
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Old 07-21-2014, 08:33 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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Xander, They support ideals and ideologues which are antithetical to this nation.

On top of that we are having members of the most violent gang in all of South America(which is just mind numbing to think how you have to out shine the worse of the worse) MS-13 are coming on top of the ones that have already come over. They are nothing even hiding it, taunting the handlers at the hold stations, flashing gang signs, and flashing their tattoos..

On top of that we have confirmed cases of persons with drug resistant TB infecting handlers and Border Patrol agents.

On top of that we have cartels using suppressing sniper fire to pin down Border Patrol agents...

This has to end, and if it does not end here it will end really really really badly for this nation..

The new colossus is a poem, nothing more it show have no say on our laws and our immigration system that should be made for the benefit of America not at a determent.
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Old 07-21-2014, 08:42 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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Just more overstatement and dramatics those are not terrorists or MS-13 gangs for the most part, just people that were escaping gangs, death and poverty. How many border agents have been killed this month by Cartels.

Please stop with the build a fence, not a solution.
Really?

Read
Border Crisis: Illegal Immigrant

https://townhall.com/video/border-cr...mbers-n1862327

Violent gang MS-13 taking advantage of immigration crisis, using border as recruiting hub - Washington Times

Docs Detail Crimes of MS-13 Gang Members Housed in Border Patrol Processing Center | Fox News Insider

Texas AG on MS-13 gang members illegally crossing border | On Air Videos | Fox News

Really? Not happening?

These people can be helped, just in their home nations.

We can not take them, we have too many people in need in our nation.

If you want to help them..If have an idea, You Adopt them.

How many border agents have been infected with tb and other disease? around 50 that we know of..

How many Border Patrol agents have to be shot at before the get luck or just want to see how far they can push us?

A border fence is the solution.

It would be as cheap as a one time cost of $60,000,000,000 While the cost of illegal immigration cost this nation at least $100,000,000,000 a year not to mention the human cost in the way of suppressed wages, destroyed neighborhoods, and people who were victims of crimes committed by illegal immigrates..

It works in Israel on their borders with Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt.
It works in Spain on their border with Morocco.
It works in India on their borders with Bangladesh and Pakistan.
It works in South Korea on their border with North Korea.
It works in Mexico on their border with Guatemala.

"If Fences Don't Work, Why Is There One Around The White House?"-Charles Krauthammer
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