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Old 07-31-2014, 04:44 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Indeed, great news!
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Old 07-31-2014, 04:49 PM
 
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Public unions ruins whatever states they infest and gorge themselves on.
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Old 07-31-2014, 04:55 PM
 
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Pubic unions can be good or bad. However all too often they have started good, and then changed. They're the extreme end of the employer employee power struggle where the employee has too much power in the negotiation. This is just as bad as the opposite end.

There needs to be something in the middle, but no one seems to want to be there.
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Old 07-31-2014, 05:02 PM
 
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I am 100% against public unions. I am fine with trade unions because they train their members to do the job right and they deserve the pay they get. I was a non-union electrician (had my own business) and worked along side union electricians with no problem. Just like I wouldn't hire a non-union trained plumber. The problem gets to be with not having "Right to work" laws and unions shutting down jobs.
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Old 07-31-2014, 05:59 PM
 
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Bleed them so badly they have to dip into their pension funds via lawsuits without merit. like sueing them for human rights violations?

What the heck is wrong with you?
Nothing, it's the tactic you on the left used to attempt to destroy Sarah Palin. Remember all those false ethics charges designed to bankrupt the Palins?

Besides, suing unions and bankrupting them would be so awesome... It would national party week if it happened.
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Old 07-31-2014, 06:00 PM
 
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FWIW, this wasn't a surprise at all. Everyone knew the law was going to be upheld. Meanwhile, Act 10 hasn't actually fixed anything...Wisconsin's economy still lags behind its neighbors, teachers are shunning Wisconsin for other states, our schools are not magically fixed and better for ending collective bargaining, and Mary Burke has caught up to Gov. Walker in the polls (I still expect Walker to win re-election, though). You union bashers can have your day now...some of us here in Wisconsin aren't relishing the idea of being turned into a carbon copy of states like Indiana or Mississippi, though.
Which neighbors would that be?

Mi? IL? MN?
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Old 07-31-2014, 10:20 PM
 
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Which neighbors would that be?

Mi? IL? MN?
If Wisconsin is lagging so badly, it's mystifying as to why MaseMan hasn't picked up and moved to a paradise like Gary, Indiana, East St. Louis, or some other hell on earth run by people he would vote for. He would be much better off, and so would Wisconsin.
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Old 07-31-2014, 11:10 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Nothing, it's the tactic you on the left used to attempt to destroy Sarah Palin. Remember all those false ethics charges designed to bankrupt the Palins?

Besides, suing unions and bankrupting them would be so awesome... It would national party week if it happened.
Some of those ethics complaints were indeed stupid(false is the wrong word, as they were all true, Alaska has a low bar for ethics complaints), but most of them werent from the left, heck sitting Republicans in the Alaska legislature filed ethics claims against her.

Stop blaming Democrats/ The Left for Palin just not being a good governor.
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Old 07-31-2014, 11:12 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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If Wisconsin is lagging so badly, it's mystifying as to why MaseMan hasn't picked up and moved to a paradise like Gary, Indiana, East St. Louis, or some other hell on earth run by people he would vote for. He would be much better off, and so would Wisconsin.
Indiana is run by republicans. So is Missouri for the most part.

If you want to attack Liberals for individual cities being bad, then why dont you give them credit for Austin or other Blue cities that are considered better off ????
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Old 07-31-2014, 11:15 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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I'm not a fan of public unions. Still, I don't see how you can ban a group of people from assembling and working together to create leverage.
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