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Old 08-22-2014, 07:09 AM
 
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Originally Posted by marigolds6 View Post
The troubling part is the phone call back to Ferguson dispatch.
The dispatch call states they "called Ferguson" and they "do not know anything about it"

Hey if Wilson called Ferguson dispatch, it's going to be out there somewhere. And, I am just
surprised that it has not surfaced yet.

 
Old 08-22-2014, 07:16 AM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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Attorneys just said, a person past does not matter....
If fairness, it's his own client that is the one with that past. Of course he would say that. But even the CNN reporter didn't buy it.

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Old 08-22-2014, 07:19 AM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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I'm assuming they had dispatched an officer because of the "crowd control" at the street and the
dispatcher already states "policeman is shooting". It does not mean Wilson made that call.
I don't know why I'm bothering. First, it's been explained to you about those tapes - they are the wrong dispatch. Second, you're assuming on why that officer was there. I can do that too. I'm going to assume the shooting was called in by either Wilson of the second officer who arrived on the scene mere minutes after the shooting. See, that's all we have - assumptions - until the evidence provided to the Grand Jury is provided to the public. Until then, stop trying to make every wrong assumption on your part into some grand conspiracy.
 
Old 08-22-2014, 07:33 AM
 
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I can do that too. I'm going to assume the shooting was called in by either Wilson of the second officer who arrived on the scene mere minutes after the shooting. See, that's all we have - assumptions - until the evidence provided to the Grand Jury is provided to the public. Until then, stop trying to make every wrong assumption on your part into some grand conspiracy.
Why would a recorded dispatch or lack of one by Wilson, be part of some grand conspiracy. If Wilson called dispatch the tape is out there. I'm sure it would not say much anyways. Not like there would be any thing telling there, e.g. confession of a killer sort of thing...

The tape is what it is. And the dispatcher DID call Ferguson dispatch and they stated they knew
nothing about it (according to the tape).

Maybe that "severe beating that almost left Wilson unconscious" prevented him from calling...


Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown, says source | Fox News

"According to the well-placed source, Wilson was coming off another case in the neighborhood on Aug. 9 when he ordered Michael Brown and his friend Dorain Johnson to stop walking in the middle of the road because they were obstructing traffic. However, the confrontation quickly escalated into physical violence, the source said.

Wilson was left dazed by the initial confrontation, the source said. He is now "traumatized, scared for his life and his family, injured and terrified" that a grand jury, which began hearing evidence on Wednesday, will "make some kind of example out of him," the source said."
 
Old 08-22-2014, 07:55 AM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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Why would a recorded dispatch or lack of one by Wilson, be part of some grand conspiracy. If Wilson called dispatch the tape is out there. I'm sure it would not say much anyways. Not like there would be any thing telling there, e.g. confession of a killer sort of thing...

The tape is what it is. And the dispatcher DID call Ferguson dispatch and they stated they knew
nothing about it (according to the tape).

Maybe that "severe beating that almost left Wilson unconscious" prevented him from calling...


Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown, says source | Fox News

"According to the well-placed source, Wilson was coming off another case in the neighborhood on Aug. 9 when he ordered Michael Brown and his friend Dorain Johnson to stop walking in the middle of the road because they were obstructing traffic. However, the confrontation quickly escalated into physical violence, the source said.

Wilson was left dazed by the initial confrontation, the source said. He is now "traumatized, scared for his life and his family, injured and terrified" that a grand jury, which began hearing evidence on Wednesday, will "make some kind of example out of him," the source said."
I'm not the one claiming some conspiracy. You seem to hint at it (strongly, I might add) several times. The fact is another officer showed up minutes (as in less than five) after the shooting. That cop was called - obviously - to get there that soon. I think you mentioned crowd control before as the rationale?? Use your logic again. At that point, so soon after the shooting, so soon after the initial contact between Wilson and Brown, crowd control would not be an issue yet. So, let's employ a bit of Occam's Razor. Why would that second officer show up to the scene minutes later? Could it be that Wilson called it in? That would be the most logical answer.

Until the evidence is released after the Grand Jury, all we have is speculation. And your wild speculation isn't even logical.
 
Old 08-22-2014, 08:21 AM
 
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The dispatch call states they "called Ferguson" and they "do not know anything about it"

Hey if Wilson called Ferguson dispatch, it's going to be out there somewhere. And, I am just
surprised that it has not surfaced yet.
Why would it "surface?" Anonymous is the one releasing the info. They aren't going to release anything that is helpful to the Ferguson police. Heck, they named someone who is a civilian employee of another PD as the shooter. No one should be trusting anything Anonymous puts out at this point.
 
Old 08-22-2014, 08:29 AM
 
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"Prosecutors have not been in direct contact with Wilson yet, Magee said. McCulloch has been in touch with Wilson’s attorney but has not spoken to Wilson himself."

Prosecutors have not spoken to Darren Wilson yet - The Washington Post

I figured Wilson with his lawyer talked to the DA by now. He must not trust the 'open and transparent' process any more than other people do.
 
Old 08-22-2014, 08:29 AM
 
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Originally Posted by pollyrobin View Post
Why would a recorded dispatch or lack of one by Wilson, be part of some grand conspiracy. If Wilson called dispatch the tape is out there. I'm sure it would not say much anyways. Not like there would be any thing telling there, e.g. confession of a killer sort of thing...

The tape is what it is. And the dispatcher DID call Ferguson dispatch and they stated they knew
nothing about it (according to the tape).

Maybe that "severe beating that almost left Wilson unconscious" prevented him from calling...


Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown, says source | Fox News

"According to the well-placed source, Wilson was coming off another case in the neighborhood on Aug. 9 when he ordered Michael Brown and his friend Dorain Johnson to stop walking in the middle of the road because they were obstructing traffic. However, the confrontation quickly escalated into physical violence, the source said.

Wilson was left dazed by the initial confrontation, the source said. He is now "traumatized, scared for his life and his family, injured and terrified" that a grand jury, which began hearing evidence on Wednesday, will "make some kind of example out of him," the source said."
Wilson didn't have fractured eye socket. There is a lot of misleading info out there.
 
Old 08-22-2014, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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Wilson didn't have fractured eye socket. There is a lot of misleading info out there.
And there's no confirmation that's true either.
 
Old 08-22-2014, 08:39 AM
 
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Wilson didn't have fractured eye socket. There is a lot of misleading info out there.
I agree, there is a lot of misleading information. That's why to be reasonable, we should acknowledge that we don't know and wait for the facts to come out.

Regarding the eye socket:

"CNN anchor Don Lemon reported on Thursday that Wilson did go to the hospital with swelling around his face and eyes, but an X-ray came back negative for a fracture to his orbital bone."

That would be great for the officer if he didn't have a fracture. However, if this is true, it still means the officer was assualted regardless of whether there was a fracture or not. The fracture is a detail among the bigger picture that (again, if this is true) the officer was assaulted and beaten in the face.
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