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Never heard that excuse and don't expect to. People recruit from outside their area all the time and get by just fine.
I've heard that one many times & it's in reference to cops living in the surrounding suburbs & working in the inner city. Now you want to bring in people who aren't even from the area because the local Black community lacks the initiative and/or basic skills to get a civil service job?
You said it's on the employer to "find" black applicants if none apply when they post a job listing. This is where you are wrong. If an employer chooses to search in self segregated black areas for self segregating black applicants, fine, but it's not an obligation on the employer to do so.
Why not address the rest of my post and points btw?
I said if they want or need black applicants its up to them to find them. Since the Police Chief said he's looking for them, I assume he feels he needs them.
Three possibilities. Young officers who grew up there and want to work there, and have not decided to move on to more lucrative positions yet (most leave at 5 years, when they become pension vested). Old officers who hired on back when Ferguson was in better shape and had more competitive pay; now they would leave too much pension on the table to move elsewhere without retiring first.
And the last possibility... screw ups who were fired by other departments. North St Louis County departments are full of these people, some of whom are not even certified officers by get hired anyway (Ferguson is not the bottom of the barrel).
Nope, there are plenty of applicants, it's just another racist conspiracy.
I've heard that one many times & it's in reference to cops living in the surrounding suburbs & working in the inner city. Now you want to bring in people who aren't even from the area because the local Black community lacks the initiative and/or basic skills to get a civil service job?
I don't want to. The Ferguson Police Chief said he was looking for black applicants. I assume if he cant find them locally, he will go further afield.
You're making a lot of assumptions.
For all we know, the Ferguson police force is a closed good old boys club. Lets not pretend they don't still exist in small towns across the country. Maybe the locals aren't interested in suing their way into a job. Most people aren't.
So, while talking about the sunshine law, that leads to something bothering me.
Missouri Sunshine Law has one exception built into it for investigations in progress. The victims can obtain a court order to get all details. Forensics, autopsy, witness list, witness statements, everything.
They could even have used this to get the name of the shooter (though they probably already knew).
So, why haven't they sought this order? Or have they, but not released the information? Assuming a civil suit is coming, it would be in their best interest to get the court order.
Interesting. Turns out that Wilson did not file an incident report giving the details of the killing. Nor did the police dept.
I don't want to. The Ferguson Police Chief said he was looking for black applicants. I assume if he cant find them locally, he will go further afield.
You're making a lot of assumptions.
For all we know, the Ferguson police force is a closed good old boys club. Lets not pretend they don't still exist in small towns across the country. Maybe the locals aren't interested in suing their way into a job. Most people aren't.
Yep, especially if you expect everything to come to you.
Interesting. Turns out that Wilson did not file an incident report giving the details of the killing. Nor did the police dept.
[strike]Yes, they did. Incident report 14-12391 (or 2014-12391). That's been pretty widely published as the incident number.[/strike]
They filed investigative report 14-12391 (or 2014-12391). That has been pretty widely published as the report number.
The actual investigative report is being filed by the investigating agency, St Louis County, and is report 14-43984 (or 2014-43984). Again, also widely published. Both report numbers were in the robbery report.
Last edited by marigolds6; 08-21-2014 at 09:11 PM..
Reason: Clarified difference between investigative and incident report.
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