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Old 01-31-2015, 06:43 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Aren't blacks more in line with republicans socially on issues such as Christian values, traditional marriage, etc. When has it ever occur that a gay couple walk into a stage when nearly full black audience and the couple gets warm welcome?

How do blacks reconcile that and vote the other way?
All black people do not believe in the same thing for one.
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Old 02-01-2015, 03:37 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Aren't blacks more in line with republicans socially on issues such as Christian values, traditional marriage, etc. When has it ever occur that a gay couple walk into a stage when nearly full black audience and the couple gets warm welcome?

How do blacks reconcile that and vote the other way?
They haven't forgiven Republicans for freeing them in 1863.
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Old 02-01-2015, 03:59 AM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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I don't think you can lump all blacks as a group any more than you can whites or any other race. There are smart, educated, hard working, successful black people out there. Those that want to get ahead, be safe in their homes and feel like they have a chance to walk the streets without dying at the hands of thugs. Those blacks typically vote Republicans. As do whites with similar traits.

There are also blacks and whites that are lazy, ignorant, feel the world owes them something for nothing, don't want to work and feel that a life of crime and drug use is something to aspire to. They are referred to as Democrats.
Since blacks in recent years vote 85-90% Democrat, we can get a good gauge how this right-winger feels about them as a race (Lazy, ignorant, criminals, drug users, etc.).

And then the Grand Old Wizard...errr, Party wonders why minorities don't flock to them.

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Free stuff from their white neighbors.
The hate is palpable.
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Old 02-01-2015, 04:30 AM
 
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Think about "Battered housewives syndrome" and "Stockholm Syndrome".

Battered housewives syndrome is where housewives are beaten and abused by their husbands, and when he approaches her after abusing her and says "You know I love you baby. I didn't mean that. Come on back baby. Its you and me forever." And then she forgives him, defends him to her friends, makes excuses for him and his abusive behavior, lies for him, and goes back to him, even though he continues to abuse her, again and again and again. He is the devil she knows and she will not even try to break the cycle, in part because she does not have the self confidence to do so.

Stockholm syndrome is when someone who is abducted and dominated by their captors comes to identify with their slavemasters, accepting their role. Like battered housewives syndrome, the abductee will make excuses for their captors and their abusive behavior and become conditioned to this role.

The Democrats make promises to black people every year which are not kept. In fact, what promise is it that poor black people are holding out for now from the Democrats that they believe are worthy of their devotion and that they believe ever will be kept? Can someone answer that for me please?

It is not just social issues.
  1. It is education issues, where black people increasingly support school choice, which Republicans also champion and which Democrats broadly oppose.
  2. It is economic issues, where Democrats support opening the boarders to illegal immigrants that take jobs at submarket wages that would be available to them if the illegals were not pouring across the boards, with Democratic support.
  3. It is issues of personal respect, where Democrats pander to black people with petty handouts and welfare programs and ghetto housing, where Republicans see that as demeaning and not something that anyone should be content with.
  4. It is racial issues, where Democrats are constantly emphasizing differences in our skin pigmentation as something to split us by and divide up with, when that is in truth the smallest and most irrelevant difference that exists between humans. In fact, there is only one race, the human race, and if black people (and all people) would reject attempts by political exploitationists to try to divide us up this way, they would be much happier people and members of our society. Republicans support this kind of equality, Democrats obviously do not.
Black people appear to identify very closely with Democrats, who over the last 50 years have not appreciably helped them with anything. Democrats make the same promises, election after election, which are cast aside literally the day after the election every time. And that has even happened during the last six years of our first black President, Barack Obama.

Understanding phenomenon like Battered Housewives Syndrome and Stockholm Syndrome are instructive in understanding how this can continue to be happening.

And the Republican solution to crappy unaffordable ghetto housing is crickets.
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Old 02-01-2015, 06:00 AM
 
Location: Anchorage, Alaska (South Central Region)
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Why is anyone obsessed with how Blacks vote?
Conservatives been fearing black voters for a long time. I don't recall conservative voters was this concerned and fearful (2008 - 2016) with the black vote in previous elections.
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Old 02-01-2015, 06:22 AM
 
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And the Republican solution to crappy unaffordable ghetto housing is crickets.
If the only response you are capable of perceiving as a "solution" is yet another massive welfare or entitlement program, then that would explain your perspective on this.

But as hard as it may be for you to understand, this is not the solution. In fact, this mentality is an enormous part of the problem.
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Old 02-01-2015, 06:50 AM
 
Location: Center of the universe
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If the only response you are capable of perceiving as a "solution" is yet another massive welfare or entitlement program, then that would explain your perspective on this.

But as hard as it may be for you to understand, this is not the solution. In fact, this mentality is an enormous part of the problem.
What is the solution?
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Old 02-01-2015, 07:09 AM
 
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What is the solution?
Much better education, job skills training and and an enthusiastic willingness to be absorbed into the larger culture of our melting pot society, rather than to continue to voluntarily segregate themselves in their hearts and minds according to their skin color (with the strong encouragement of the Democrats of course).
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Old 02-01-2015, 08:16 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Aren't blacks more in line with republicans socially on issues such as Christian values, traditional marriage, etc. When has it ever occur that a gay couple walk into a stage when nearly full black audience and the couple gets warm welcome?

How do blacks reconcile that and vote the other way?
Democrats give them money. Public assistance in its various forms.
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Old 02-01-2015, 09:18 AM
 
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Conservatives been fearing black voters for a long time. I don't recall conservative voters was this concerned and fearful (2008 - 2016) with the black vote in previous elections.
Instead of being fearful, why not try and garner some of that Black vote? I mean, the more votes the better.

I found one thread talking about Blacks and their voting patterns, and it dates back to the very last days of the Bush Administration.
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