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Old 11-01-2015, 07:39 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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When people argue about low wages and a $15 minimum wage, the typical response is the low wage employee should just go back to school and learn a trade so they can earn more.
Going back to school isn't even necessary to move up the income ladder. Just ask for more duties/assignments, observe those who are earning more than you at your place of employment and learn from them, etc. Increasing one's marketable skills doesn't always involve school. Initiative, purposefully acquired increases in skills and knowledge, and experience are frequently more valuable to employers than a diploma. That's why students who have worked internships in their field during their college years are hired more quickly than those who didn't.
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Old 11-01-2015, 07:43 AM
 
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do you know how many are single parents- and how many dead beat dads there are? and many are not poor people- but had husbands that do not how to keep-- in their pants -
Since when is birth control not readily available, cheap, and even free to people on Medicaid?
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Old 11-01-2015, 07:47 AM
 
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Going back to school isn't even necessary to move up the income ladder. Just ask for more duties/assignments, observe those who are earning more than you at your place of employment and learn from them, etc. Increasing one's marketable skills doesn't always involve school. Initiative, purposefully acquired increases in skills and knowledge, and experience are frequently more valuable to employers than a diploma. That's why students who have worked internships in their field during their college years are hired more quickly than those who didn't.
People already do all those things. Sometimes they work, sometimes they don't. But the larger point is that there are still low-wage jobs being filled by low-wage workers, and that taxpayers are still being forced to bail out corporate executives and stockholders by picking up through income support programs a sizable chunk of labor costs that should have been paid within the private sector.
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Old 11-01-2015, 07:49 AM
 
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Since when is birth control not readily available, cheap, and even free to people on Medicaid?
Since when is "You should have used birth control" a legitimate response to the needs of a single mother?
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Old 11-01-2015, 07:56 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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you don't live their lives and you do not know what is available or NOT-- to them -
don't doubt that there are people who have extenuating circumstances that make them unable to rise to the occasion but its funny that as the entitlement programs have expanded there are more and more of those types of people....
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Old 11-01-2015, 08:08 AM
 
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Should government give welfare to low wage workers

It's a false question. Before the government can "give", it must "take" from those who earned it.

The real question is this.

Should government take food off one person's table and hand it to someone else?

Answer: NO
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Old 11-01-2015, 08:09 AM
 
Location: Twin Cities (StP)
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Because they are not you.

I could probably come up with a list of 100 reasons from IQ to fatigue (a serious and underrated problem that can lead to everything from sleeping through every alarm to hitting a group of kids with car on commute)

But my usual response to the "why can't they do this" (which is a legit question that i used to ask myself before i knew better) is this:

I can touch my tongue to my nose so why can't you?

It's the exact same thing. We all have different limitations.

Most cannot. But you actually CAN if you have a surgeon cut the connection under your tongue.

I don't think as a country we should require people to mutilate themselves is order to get some help.
So getting another job is like having a surgeon alter your body?
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Old 11-01-2015, 08:10 AM
 
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Of course it should and while they're at it, they should take some of it back and give my business money because I don't think it's doing well enough. The Welfare circle goes round and round
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Old 11-01-2015, 08:13 AM
 
Location: Twin Cities (StP)
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Didn't Darwin invent evolution so we wouldn't have to deal with this issue?
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Old 11-01-2015, 08:16 AM
 
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Didn't Darwin invent evolution so we wouldn't have to deal with this issue?
I think the word you're looking for is 'discover' but if you were making a point about intelligence prevailing then maybe you made a case but not the one you thought
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