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Interesting enough that you completely ducked the point of it. Birth control is not any more fool-proof than driver's ed. You've still got real live situations on the ground to deal with. You don't take up any of them.
Why is that even necessary, though? Have a low income? Live with roommates to split living expenses, don't have children, don't waste money on tobacco, alcohol, pricey electronics, pricey clothing, etc. There is absolutely no reason why low-income earners should be subsidized. Why can't they live within their means via the above suggestions? It CAN be done.
Because as he explained taxpayers are subsidizing employers. Why not make companies who pay below poverty level wages to anyone over 21 repay the government for all of the SNAP benefits, medicaid, and EITC that those employees receive. If those benefits weren't offered no one except 16 year old kids would take those jobs.
I have yet to hear any 'free market' folks railing about "why do we subsidize employees with welfare benefits when all it does is allow companies to pay less than market rate wages" That is a gross distortion of the way a 'free market' works. In a less schizoid political environment maybe that is a discussion we could have.
You can carry on about corporations, the fact of the matter is, if you aren't making enough money, get a 2nd job. I'm not the only person who has ever done that, it's been done by untold amounts of people for YEARS.
If that's all that it took, problems would have been eradicated a long time ago. But they haven't been. It is still the case that taxpayers every year pick up billions of dollars worth of costs for basic food, housing, and health care support that should have been paid in the private sector. Corporations of whatever size are simply stripping off a part of their legitimate costs of production and dumping those off onto the general taxpaying public. Does it make you feel more happy or more stupid for having put up with this sort of thing?
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Stop the handouts and let a few, or a lot, who are indeed capable of working actually starve. Ignore the bleeding hearts and let nature take its course.
Absolutely not. This is how we have created a terrible number of welfare-minded citizens. Those low-paying jobs are for the very young and single who need to get started in the work arena, get experience and move up the scale. Government has already destroyed the market for the youngsters with their ridiculous regulations...let's not make it worse.
What makes things worse is blindness and simple denial with respect to the actual facts of the matter. You can't fight what you can't see, and you don't need to fight what you do see that isn't actually there.
Stop the handouts and let a few, or a lot, who are indeed capable of working actually starve. Ignore the bleeding hearts and let nature take its course.
The course that nature will take will include some big strong guy coming by, kicking your teeth in, and taking everything you've got for himself. That's how nature works in the absence of controls and interventions. It's all dog eat dog out there, don't you know. But I'm guessing you want dog-eat-dog only for OTHER folks, not for yourself. Funny how that works.
Because as he explained taxpayers are subsidizing employers. Why not make companies who pay below poverty level wages to anyone over 21 repay the government for all of the SNAP benefits, medicaid, and EITC that those employees receive. If those benefits weren't offered no one except 16 year old kids would take those jobs.
I have yet to hear any 'free market' folks railing about "why do we subsidize employees with welfare benefits when all it does is allow companies to pay less than market rate wages" That is a gross distortion of the way a 'free market' works. In a less schizoid political environment maybe that is a discussion we could have.
Your argument has an underlying hypothesis: "If welfare wasn't a thing, low-wage employers would need to pay more." You are then assuming that it is true, however are offering no proof that it is, and frankly we have no clue whether or not it is true. Your guess might be that it is, but you have no basis in data or fact to back it up. My guess is that it is true in high-cost parts of the country but not true elsewhere - but you know what, that like your opinion is also just a guess not backed up by data. You're taking a very strong view on this, but you shouldn't, because it's based on a very shaky hypothesis which none of us can say with certainty whether it's true or false, not on fact.
If I saw clear unequivocal evidence backing up your hypothesis on a nationwide scale I would take the position you bemoan fiscal conservatives not taking, but either it doesn't exist or I haven't seen it.
The course that nature will take will include some big strong guy coming by, kicking your teeth in, and taking everything you've got for himself. That's how nature works in the absence of controls and interventions. It's all dog eat dog out there, don't you know. But I'm guessing you want dog-eat-dog only for OTHER folks, not for yourself. Funny how that works.
Wow, subsidize them or they'll kick your ass and take your things. It never occurred to people like this to "actually earn what they need". Sounds a little like blackmail. And then you wonder why people arm themselves. How about getting a second job like many of us did when we needed more money.
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