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Wow, subsidize them or they'll kick your ass and take your things. It never occurred to people like this to "actually earn what they need". Sounds a little like blackmail. And then you wonder why people arm themselves. How about getting a second job like many of us did when we needed more money.
Nature is not kind. The natural world that right-wingers long for is an ugly and brutish world where the strong simply take things from the weak. The idea that guns will somehow even things out is itself evidence of what poor thinking has gone into all this "nature" nonsense to begin with.
When people argue about low wages and a $15 minimum wage, the typical response is the low wage employee should just go back to school and learn a trade so they can earn more. Great idea but the low wage menial job still needs to be done by someone, so the newly trained worker will just be replaced by someone else.
Maybe 30% of full time jobs pay less than $15 an hour. Someone has got to do the low pay work, SO: Should the government pay welfare to the people who support a family on low income?
As has already been noted, workers already get welfare. Income and HH size are what's considered, not employment status.
Even low wage workers can be poor at budgeting money. Perhaps DHS should emphasize that, and offer such assistance to those receiving benefits
Originally Posted by petch751 Wow, subsidize them or they'll kick your ass and take your things. It never occurred to people like this to "actually earn what they need". Sounds a little like blackmail. And then you wonder why people arm themselves. How about getting a second job like many of us did when we needed more money.
what is wrong with this picture-
1- not you-- 60 yrs ago
2 maybe have children to care for
3 most jobs are all part time- so you still be gone many hours only making the minimum to survive, with 2/3 PT jobs
you assume jobs just so available to all - I drive in Polk county- where sex-trafficking in rampant- the teens have no jobs no transportation and it is sparsely populated. Easy victims for girls who want just a nice dress... its so easy to say--when you do NOT live their circumstances.
So to restate this, is it your contention the role of society is to transfer wealth from those who created it, to those who don't?
That's correct, though better stated as moving wealth from the more fortunate to the less fortunate. That way we can just skip past any irrational notions of who is out there "creating" wealth. LOL! In any case and as noted earlier, risk-sharing and wealth redistribution are core purposes within any society.
are you going to DENY the facts?? really??I can post and post and post all the actual funding going to corps
The FACT is that John and Jane Worker and Jack and Jill Retiree in aggregate have more wealth invested in corporations than do the rich by a margin of more than 2 to 1. Attack corporations, and you attack Main Street America's retirement.
The question here is over alleged effectiveness. Why do you simply run away from the entire point of such questions so quickly and consistently? Hmmm...?
The issue is RESPONSIBILITY. How could you have possibly missed that?
Welfare should only be paid after the claimant proves they have done everything possible to maximize their disposable income.
Wouldn't all this proving result in further diminished disposable income? Sounds a little bit counter-productive. The traditional means of establishing eligibility seem a lot more efficient to me.
The issue is RESPONSIBILITY. How could you have possibly missed that?
Responsibility is a pointless right-wing buzzword. While it may be very nice, it guarantees exactly NOTHING. You have all your eggs in one basket that has all sort of holes in the bottom. You then have no plan or advice at all to offer in the certain event that your swiss cheese notions fail to save the day.
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