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Old 11-17-2015, 05:58 AM
 
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They can't. They're paying for leeches' health insurance in addition to their own.
Yup, those leeches trying to get treatement for cancer that they can't afford. They're exactly the problem, Goingback2011. I agree.
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Old 11-17-2015, 06:03 AM
 
Location: Jawjah
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I really live the Republican...anyone seen one?
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Old 11-17-2015, 06:04 AM
 
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What do you do that things are so easy for you?
i make good decisions
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Old 11-17-2015, 06:57 AM
 
Location: Near Manito
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Medicare now employs federal workers who are better compensated than you.


Most of you would be living like the perennially and hopelessly underemployed who've protested in the high-tax streets of Brixton and Clichy-sous-Bois for decades. Since they have health care, they don't need to work (the latter of which isn't nearly as important).


The 'health' care sector--1/6 of the U.S. economy. The income stream you guarantee to it--no questions asked--when you or your increasingly besieged employers buy insurance policies against potential use of it, at any cost, under mandate (with your purchase enforced under the muzzle of state firepower). Don't worry, they encourage the stratospheric bills to pass through Human Resources, mostly unnoticed by the consumer.


And it's not done now, and it wasn't done in Massachusetts, the birthplace of modern ACA. It's done only in the dreamy, suggestible pinheads of the progressive left that helped usher in what you have now.


Then they qualify for Medicaid--after they run out of their own pent-up assets. That's what money's for, not for your cruises and trips to Disney World. I'm not helping you to buy insurance against potential lost personal assets because you would prefer to use them only for fun things. You do that yourself.
Frankly, your turgid reasoning makes no sense here. You seem to be opposed to universal healthcare because it would involve people earning more money than I do, and everyone being required to participate in paying for the system. Firstly, I don't care how much others earn; secondly, don't we all pay for the services we need, like national defense, highways, and pure water? Isn't healthcare comparably required for all? And I've never taken a cruise or been to Disney World. You seem to be arguing that I never should. I'm not sure why.
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Old 11-17-2015, 07:03 AM
 
Location: Near Manito
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Not sure how you became so detached from reality.
It was easy. My wife was diagnosed with cancer, her insurance was cancelled, and no other carrier would take her, thanks to that lovely actuarial scale that you admire but have never experienced first-hand. Luckily, I had skills that permitted us to move to another country, where she was covered immediately, sunce unlike the US, they look on healthcare as a human right, not some gotcha lottery run by greedy profit-mongers.

There are all kinds of reality in the world. For some reason, the US seems stuck in one that considers healthcare a commodity that needs to be bid for, like a Hummel figurine on eBay, and can be denied to those careless or unlucky enough to become ill. Try being faced with selling your home and liquidating your assets so that a family member can receive some astronomically-priced drug produced by a corporation whose executives and stockholders live like kings. That was reality for millions of American citizens before the advent of the ACA.

Not sure why you became detached from compassion...

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Old 11-17-2015, 07:17 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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It was easy. My wife was diagnosed with cancer, her insurance was cancelled, and no other carrier would take her, thanks to that lovely actuarial scale that you admire but have never experienced first-hand.
BS. States had high-risk insurance pools before Obamacare.
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Old 11-17-2015, 07:31 AM
 
Location: Near Manito
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BS. States had high-risk insurance pools before Obamacare.
We particpated in one. The premiums were exorbitant, the deductible obscene, the out-of-pocket astronomical.

Cancer BS, is it? Wait till it hits your family. You'll be on your knees thanking God for the ACA.

Don't bother replying. I won't see it. This is my last post to you.
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Old 11-17-2015, 07:34 AM
 
Location: Wonderland
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We particpated in one. The premiums were exorbitant, the deductible obscene, the out-of-pocket astronomical.

Cancer BS, is it? Wait till it hits your family. You'll be on your knees thanking God for the ACA.

Don't bother replying. I won't see it. This is my last post to you.
Hey, that sounds like my current health insurance plan - only with one difference - I don't have any pre existing conditions.
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Old 11-17-2015, 07:43 AM
 
Location: Near Manito
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Hey, that sounds like my current health insurance plan - only with one difference - I don't have any pre existing conditions.
Kathryn, you haven't lived until you've groveled before a state High-Risk pool, providing evidence of your denials by insurance companies, medical affadavits, etc. all so that you would be grudgingly permitted to fork over about 25% of your monthly income for 60% coverage after a $6k deductible. Now, thanks to the ACA, you will never have the pleasure. Sorry.

And isn't that abstract term "pre-existing conditions" a pesky one? May you never encounter it in reality...
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Old 11-17-2015, 07:43 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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We particpated in one. The premiums were exorbitant, the deductible obscene, the out-of-pocket astronomical.
And that's different from Obamacare, how?

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/21/bu...anted=all&_r=0

Why Obamacare fails poor and middle class - CNN.com

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/08/su...t-covered.html
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