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Old 04-20-2016, 12:25 PM
 
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Blah, blah, blah. Put up or shut up.
Read my post on how schoolchildren in Illinois got f*cked over by Obama's federal agency:
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Why would the USDoE include that in their report if their intent all along was to force indecent exposure sexual abuse onto MINOR school children?

This is what's known as DISCOVERY in courts of law: Each side presents their version of events. The sad part in this case is that it wasn't a fair fight. The USDoE threatened the withholding of millions of dollars in Title I, etc., federal funding if the IL school district didn't kowtow to the USDoE's version of events. Meanwhile, the IL school district has nothing of comparable value that they can withhold from the federal government.

 
Old 04-20-2016, 12:25 PM
 
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Not false. There are multiple instances cited in the report of "Student A's" presence in girls' facilities when he wasn't supposed to be there.
Wasn't suppose to be there and exposing genitalia are two different things, so stop moving the goal posts because it makes your lies even more noticeable. You have no proof that you know these families or that you have ever read any reports or if any genitalia was ever exposed beyond your own personal opinion that you expose your genitalia to others when you are in locker rooms.

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I know the families involved. I've heard what they've had to say about it and read their copies of the reports filed.

PLUS the USDoE OCR report cites multiple instances of the "trans" but still male breaking the rules by being present in the girls' facilities when that was prohibited.
Oh look, more lies with no proof. Go figure.
 
Old 04-20-2016, 12:26 PM
 
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Still nothing?
 
Old 04-20-2016, 12:36 PM
 
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Well done, Target! Well done!

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CONTINUING TO STAND FOR INCLUSIVITY

April 19, 2016
Recent debate around proposed laws in several states has reignited a national conversation around inclusivity. So earlier this week, we reiterated with our team members where Target stands and how our beliefs are brought to life in how we serve our guests.

Inclusivity is a core belief at Target. It’s something we celebrate. We stand for equality and equity, and strive to make our guests and team members feel accepted, respected and welcomed in our stores and workplaces every day.
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https://corporate.target.com/article...ity#sf45842864

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Old 04-20-2016, 02:08 PM
 
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Legitimate transgenders could already use the bathroom of the gender they identified with, because nobody would ever stop to question them if they looked like they belonged there. After all, where were these going to the bathroom yesterday? The same place they're going today. This changes nothing on that front.

Opposition to these policies is not about keeping transgenders out of certain bathrooms, its about preserving the privacy and safety of women. All that this policy actually accomplishes is giving perverts and sexual predators the right to use women's bathrooms in Target stores and giving them more freedom to peep, record or sexually assault women. When caught, they now have an excuse for being in there that they didn't have before.

This is political correctness overtaking common sense, and Target has made a statement that they favor a transgender's comfort over a young girl or woman's privacy or safety.
 
Old 04-20-2016, 02:28 PM
 
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Legitimate transgenders could already use the bathroom of the gender they identified with, because nobody would ever stop to question them if they looked like they belonged there. After all, where were these going to the bathroom yesterday? The same place they're going today. This changes nothing on that front.

Opposition to these policies is not about keeping transgenders out of certain bathrooms, its about preserving the privacy and safety of women. All that this policy actually accomplishes is giving perverts and sexual predators the right to use women's bathrooms in Target stores and giving them more freedom to peep, record or sexually assault women. When caught, they now have an excuse for being in there that they didn't have before.

This is political correctness overtaking common sense, and Target has made a statement that they favor a transgender's comfort over a young girl or woman's privacy or safety.
Peeping, recording and sexual assault are illegal regardless of which sex is doing it in which restroom.

In the states and cities that already have similar laws, there hasn't been an uptick of those crimes in bathrooms.
 
Old 04-20-2016, 02:36 PM
 
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Legitimate transgenders could already use the bathroom of the gender they identified with, because nobody would ever stop to question them if they looked like they belonged there. After all, where were these going to the bathroom yesterday? The same place they're going today. This changes nothing on that front.
The laws being passed in NC and other embarrassing states makes criminals of these people, and I for one would say that's a considerable change.

Incidentally, who's going to decide who's a "legitimate" transgender and who isn't?
 
Old 04-20-2016, 02:40 PM
 
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its about preserving the privacy and safety of women.



Because they are the weaker sex and need protecting?


We don't care about the FtM transgendered perverts in men's rooms with little boys, right?
 
Old 04-20-2016, 02:43 PM
 
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Peeping, recording and sexual assault are illegal regardless of which sex is doing it in which restroom.

In the states and cities that already have similar laws, there hasn't been an uptick of those crimes in bathrooms.
They are illegal, but its going to make it easier for perverts to access these places and make it harder to find them guilty. Men now have the right to be in a women's bathroom simply by putting on a dress and claiming they're trans/gender-fluid/etc when caught and it creates these spaces where women no longer have real privacy.

Many of these laws are too new to know the real impact of them. Who knows, this might be overblown concern, but it could also lead to a huge number of women who are being peeped in these places and not even know they've been violated by these perverts.
 
Old 04-20-2016, 02:47 PM
 
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I have no problem with what anyone wants to "identify" themselves as, but what if they just changed signs on bathroom doors to "penis" and "vagina"? I mean, I'm 100% for marriage equality and do not believe gay people or men born with penises who want to be women should be discriminated against..but how many people do these laws even really effect, and in all seriousness...I don't get it.
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