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Old 04-21-2016, 07:54 AM
 
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Yeah, but it would be illegal. YOU and other SWJs want to make it LEGAL for them to do so if they merely "say" they "identify" as female. Idiotic and VERY dangerous, to say the least.
If they are gong to rape someone, which is illegal, why would the sign on the door stop them?

Do gun free zone signs stop people who go to schools and kill people? No. According to you that should stop them since it is illegal for them to have a gun there.

 
Old 04-21-2016, 07:58 AM
 
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If they are gong to rape someone, which is illegal, why would the sign on the door stop them?
So... why give them a LEGAL reason for being in the girls'/women's facilities in the first place? YOU and other SWJs want to make it LEGAL for them to do so if they merely "say" they "identify" as female. Idiotic and VERY dangerous, to say the least.
 
Old 04-21-2016, 08:01 AM
 
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Do gun free zone signs stop people who go to schools and kill people? No.
And do you know why? It's because there aren't others there with guns to stop them. They have to wait until law enforcement arrives. How many have been killed before law enforcement arrives? More than 10? More than 20? How many?

These 3 California school districts allow staff to pack guns to work - LA Times
 
Old 04-21-2016, 08:05 AM
 
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Who determines the legitimacy of which gender one "identifies" as? Is someone posted at each facility's entrance to make sure the "identity" claim is valid?
Of course not, but until recently a man had no right to use a woman's bathroom or locker room. If they were 'busted', they had no excuse to be in there. Now they do, as just a tiny bit of prep allows them to legally and freely enter spaces where women are nude and vulnerable. Anyone can now buy 'spy gear' that is remarkably discreet, fitting in everyday items like watches, glasses and water bottles, making it much harder to catch these people unless they're caught with obvious recording devices. But there's no justification to search them now (unless they're blatantly recording someone), since they have the right to be there now.

Did this happen before this controversy? Of course. But these laws open the door for perverts and sexual predators to make these unsafe spaces for women and far more difficult to prosecute these sex offenders. That is where the bulk of the opposition lies, not bigotry towards transgenders, and in this case its the left who are the ones pushing the 'anti-woman' policies.

There are 750,000 registered sex offenders in this country, who now will have a much easier time targeting (no pun intended) women. And that's only the one's we've caught.
 
Old 04-21-2016, 08:11 AM
 
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So... why give them a LEGAL reason for being in the girls'/women's facilities in the first place? YOU and other SWJs want to make it LEGAL for them to do so if they merely "say" they "identify" as female. Idiotic and VERY dangerous, to say the least.
What are you going on about??? I see idiotic and dangerous but it ain't what you think. Give it a rest.
 
Old 04-21-2016, 08:14 AM
 
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Of course not, but until recently a man had no right to use a woman's bathroom or locker room. If they were 'busted', they had no excuse to be in there. Now they do, as just a tiny bit of prep allows them to legally and freely enter spaces where women are nude and vulnerable. Anyone can now buy 'spy gear' that is remarkably discreet, fitting in everyday items like watches, glasses and water bottles, making it much harder to catch these people unless they're caught with obvious recording devices. But there's no justification to search them now (unless they're blatantly recording someone), since they have the right to be there now.

Did this happen before this controversy? Of course. But these laws open the door for perverts and sexual predators to make these unsafe spaces for women and far more difficult to prosecute these sex offenders. That is where the bulk of the opposition lies, not bigotry towards transgenders, and in this case its the left who are the ones pushing the 'anti-woman' policies.

There are 750,000 registered sex offenders in this country, who now will have a much easier time targeting (no pun intended) women. And that's only the one's we've caught.
yes, and also the changing rooms in clothing stores....this is pathetic....
 
Old 04-21-2016, 08:14 AM
 
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So... why give them a LEGAL reason for being in the girls'/women's facilities in the first place? YOU and other SWJs want to make it LEGAL for them to do so if they merely "say" they "identify" as female. Idiotic and VERY dangerous, to say the least.
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And do you know why? It's because there aren't others there with guns to stop them. They have to wait until law enforcement arrives. How many have been killed before law enforcement arrives? More than 10? More than 20? How many?

These 3 California school districts allow staff to pack guns to work - LA Times
But, but, but making it legal to carry guns at schools just makes it LEGAL for an armed killer to be there!

Here's a hint, CRIMINALS don't care about breaking the law. It doesn't matter if it is illegal for them to carry a gun on school grounds or if it is illegal for them to go in the ladies room. They are going to do so anyways.
 
Old 04-21-2016, 08:15 AM
 
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Of course not, but until recently a man had no right to use a woman's bathroom or locker room. If they were 'busted', they had no excuse to be in there. Now they do, as just a tiny bit of prep allows them to legally and freely enter spaces where women are nude and vulnerable. Anyone can now buy 'spy gear' that is remarkably discreet, fitting in everyday items like watches, glasses and water bottles, making it much harder to catch these people unless they're caught with obvious recording devices. But there's no justification to search them now (unless they're blatantly recording someone), since they have the right to be there now.

Did this happen before this controversy? Of course. But these laws open the door for perverts and sexual predators to make these unsafe spaces for women and far more difficult to prosecute these sex offenders. That is where the bulk of the opposition lies, not bigotry towards transgenders, and in this case it's the left who are the ones pushing the 'anti-woman' policies.

There are 750,000 registered sex offenders in this country, who now will have a much easier time targeting (no pun intended) women. And that's only the one's we've caught
.
Sadly, you are 100% correct.
 
Old 04-21-2016, 08:16 AM
 
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yes, and also the changing rooms in clothing stores....this is pathetic....
Changing rooms in clothing stores are private stalls, and they are generally attended by a sales person.
 
Old 04-21-2016, 08:17 AM
 
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All I can say is that it must be exhausting to be so paranoid all the time.
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