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Old 05-21-2016, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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He won't.

The only thing that gives me hope about who becomes next president, regardless of who that is from any of the choices we had this year, is that we (hopefully) have a balance of power between the branches of Federal government.
Deporting illegals doesn't require approval of congress or the supreme court. Therefore, the president can do it on his own.
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Old 05-21-2016, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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If Trump becomes president, and he deports all the illegals, who is going to do the jobs they were doing? .
Obviously, people who are here legally. We have several million unemployed today.
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Old 05-21-2016, 03:14 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Deporting illegals doesn't require approval of congress or the supreme court. Therefore, the president can do it on his own.
I suppose as long as he is personally going to do it. Otherwise, he will need manpower and those people will need pay and logistic support. That takes money and that takes a congressional appropriation. Congress has not adequately funded immigration for decades because enforcement is not really desired by either side. Don't expect that to change.
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Old 05-21-2016, 03:21 PM
 
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If Trump deported all the illegals, I wonder how much rent would top in San Diego?, LA?, would $15/hr min wage still be needed to maintain a plausible standard of living.?
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Old 05-21-2016, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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Deporting illegals doesn't require approval of congress or the supreme court. Therefore, the president can do it on his own.
Nope. Has to get the money from Congress. Unlikely. The more likely projection is deportation drop in the early years of a Trump administration...particularly if he does try to do mass deportations. Not suggesting this would be Trump's intent but it is virtually guaranteed that any large bureaucracy grinds toward a halt if you try to change the mission in any substantial way.

Maybe late in his term Trump might get substantial deportation going but even that is unlikely. And that is presuming he means it. That may be presuming to far however.
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Old 05-21-2016, 03:24 PM
 
Location: North America
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CAUTION: Rant mode ON.

You know, I've been listening to this "jobs Americans won't do" nonsense for years now.

It's absolute drivel....the ultimate straw man argument.

Why? Because illegals aren't just fruit pickers and ditch diggers anymore and they haven't been for the last thirty years or so.

At one time, you could make this argument.....but that time has long since past.

Illegals have all but taken over the construction trades in many cities.
Go to just about any job site in many cities and take a look at the Carpenters, Roofers, Painters, Masons, Drywall and Concrete crews.

These are jobs that, at one time were the vocations of choice for many Americans who, either did not want to or could not afford to go to college. It was a way to still be paid a fair wage, raise a family and live the American dream.

Now.... They are almost all Hispanic workers.

And before you ask...."how do you know they're illegal"?

The answer is ....I work with them, I talk to them and I've even had some over for dinner.
They are no longer afraid to admit they're illegal, they come right out and tell you exactly why they are here, how they got here etc.

So, can we please finally dispel this myth once and for all?

Illegals are taking jobs that could be, should be and used to be done by American workers.

Anyone who refuses to acknowledge that is either grossly misinformed or intentionally being misleading to further an agenda.


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Even those jobs less Americans want to do. The problem is more and more kids are going to college now and they have less desire to do those kinds of jobs anymore. It's not just those jobs either. Look at most fast food jobs now. They used to be a hub of teenage employment. Now the majority of employees in them are minorities.I mean I get what you are saying but the reality is still the same. These jobs are becoming less and less appealing to Americans as more of the youth enter the age that they can go into the work force. You can either go to college for 4 years and get an office job that pays you 45-50 with benefits to start or you can bust your ass for 12-13 bucks an hour to start. Just how many of the young adults you think are picking the latter these days?
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Old 05-21-2016, 03:26 PM
 
Location: North America
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Deporting illegals doesn't require approval of congress or the supreme court. Therefore, the president can do it on his own.
No, but it requires the approval of the courts which will be clogged up dealing with appeal after appeal.
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Old 05-21-2016, 03:39 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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No, but it requires the approval of the courts which will be clogged up dealing with appeal after appeal.
Deporting illegals is just enforcing the law and doesn't require court approval.

BTW, we are deporting more illegals now than at any time in our history.
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Old 05-21-2016, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Here
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"What would happen if Trump deports all the illegals when he's elected?"

Trump would have to hire Americans to build his buildings and run his resorts
Yes. Because I'm sure all of Trumps construction projects were/are built by illegals and, as luck would have it, illegals are also the same folks that just happen to be running his resorts too.

Do you have any other brilliant info you would like to share with us?
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Old 05-21-2016, 03:43 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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The jobs illegals do? You act as if only illegals can do them. I didn't know that illegals had a superpower.

The other day I mowed my own lawn, and I was like "WOW! I can do a job only illegals are supposed to do! I'm awesome!"
It has nothing to do with what the illegal can or cannot do. It has everything to do with what an American will do, and for what pay rate. You are not going to convince people to give up their good paying jobs to do lower paying jobs, and you're not going to force Americans who don't want to work for low wages to work to work for low wages.

When wages rise, it will effect the cost for all of the things we purchase. We will adjust by scaling back on our purchases. People who once used lawn service will find it too expensive, and simply mow their own lawns. Apply that logic to everything we buy, and the economy will deflate.

I'm comfortable with all this, as I want the illegals gone. They have no right to be here. Anyone who utilizes their cheap labor is a criminal and an abomination to this nation. But, there is a propensity in business to believe that certain segments of our economy are not sustainable without access to cheap, foreign or illegal labor. So, nothing will change, unless change is forced.
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