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Old 08-19-2016, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Austin
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Originally Posted by SHABAZZ310 View Post
Well, riots never turn out well but they make a point.
What point do riots make? What did the looters and people who destroyed Ferguson gain? All I have seen are precipitous drops in home owners' real estate values in Ferguson, businesses choosing not to rebuild their looted and destroyed businesses, and more misery for residents.

yeah, that lawlessness and violence by the looters and hoodlums made big points....

Last edited by texan2yankee; 08-19-2016 at 08:56 AM..

 
Old 08-19-2016, 08:42 AM
 
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This is what I see. The riots will get everyone's attention. It will get noticed. It will also get people thrown in prison. Little change comes from riots.
Most Americans do not condone violence with the exception of our actions in other Countries. Then, apparently, it's alright because it's 'over there'. Wherever 'there' is as long as it's not here.

When it's here? It seems as if some feel it's best to ignore the conditions which cause persons to feel that they must engage in riotous activities.
 
Old 08-19-2016, 09:12 AM
 
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Most Americans do not condone violence with the exception of our actions in other Countries. Then, apparently, it's alright because it's 'over there'. Wherever 'there' is as long as it's not here.

When it's here? It seems as if some feel it's best to ignore the conditions which cause persons to feel that they must engage in riotous activities.
Ignore the conditions and on multiple occasions justify them and then scratch their heads when thinks tip over. Excellent post.
 
Old 08-19-2016, 09:14 AM
 
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Ignore the conditions and on multiple occasions justify them and then scratch their heads when thinks tip over. Excellent post.
What conditions? A thug gets shot for pointing a gun at a cop ...is that your CONDITION? Help me understand.
 
Old 08-19-2016, 09:20 AM
 
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For a start, these are some of the identified conditions:
  • Conducting stops, searches and arrests without meeting the requirements of the Fourth Amendment;
  • Focusing enforcement strategies on African Americans, leading to severe and unjustified racial disparities in violation of Title VI of the Civil Rights Act and the Safe Streets Act;
  • Using unreasonable force in violation of the Fourth Amendment;
  • Interacting with individuals with mental health disabilities in a manner that violates the Americans with Disabilities Act; and
  • Interfering with the right to free expression in violation of the First Amendment.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justi...ice-department
 
Old 08-19-2016, 09:22 AM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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Originally Posted by ChiGeekGuest View Post
Most Americans do not condone violence with the exception of our actions in other Countries. Then, apparently, it's alright because it's 'over there'. Wherever 'there' is as long as it's not here.

When it's here? It seems as if some feel it's best to ignore the conditions which cause persons to feel that they must engage in riotous activities.

They engage in riotous activity so they can steal. Make off with anything of value, that isn't nailed down (and even if it is). Whatever the excuse for the riot, that's all it is, an excuse. I will hazard to say, that a really low percentage of these rioters, actually have any clue at all about any political motivations. The rest are just lemmings. Oh, they're brimming with hate, yes indeed. But, that hate is put there by puppet masters, Yes, they have hate, but zero clue as to WHY they hate.

In chess...the pawns always go first....
 
Old 08-19-2016, 10:06 AM
 
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Originally Posted by ChiGeekGuest View Post
For a start, these are some of the identified conditions:
  • Conducting stops, searches and arrests without meeting the requirements of the Fourth Amendment;
  • Focusing enforcement strategies on African Americans, leading to severe and unjustified racial disparities in violation of Title VI of the Civil Rights Act and the Safe Streets Act;
  • Using unreasonable force in violation of the Fourth Amendment;
  • Interacting with individuals with mental health disabilities in a manner that violates the Americans with Disabilities Act; and
  • Interfering with the right to free expression in violation of the First Amendment.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justi...ice-department
Here are more conditions:

Stop committing crimes
When asked to put your hands up...do it.
Stop pointing guns at law enforcement
 
Old 08-19-2016, 10:16 AM
 
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So, any video that is not subject to the 3 year retention is automatically closed. Any video subject to the 3 year where the subject of the video does not request it to be open, is closed. Any video subject to 3 years because a subject requested it be retained, is closed.
Certain videos — including ones showing the use of force, commission of a felony, events leading up to an arrest for a felony, or an encounter that resulted in a civilian complaint — would be retained for three years. Whether or not videos are available for public release is based on the same criteria.

So if, they show use of force, commission of a felony, an arrest and events leading up to an arrest for a felony or an encounter were there is a civilian complaint would be available for public release. Again. Public release.

Someone gets stopped for speeding, the encounter goes smooth, both parties leave the video can be deleted. O.K.

Someone gets stopped for speeding, the encounter does not go smooth. There is a violent encounter. That becomes available for public release.

Exactly as it should be.
 
Old 08-19-2016, 10:21 AM
 
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What point do riots make? What did the looters and people who destroyed Ferguson gain? All I have seen are precipitous drops in home owners' real estate values in Ferguson, businesses choosing not to rebuild their looted and destroyed businesses, and more misery for residents.

yeah, that lawlessness and violence by the looters and hoodlums made big points....
They gained a lot.....we are getting more and more officers being held personally accountable.

7 Chicago cops recommended for firing in Laquan McDonald death

Laquan McDonald death: 7 Chicago cops recommended for firing - CNN.com

This is at the very least in part because of Ferguson.

The increase demand and use of body camera's can be related to Ferguson.
 
Old 08-19-2016, 10:23 AM
 
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Originally Posted by jp03 View Post
Here are more conditions:

Stop committing crimes
When asked to put your hands up...do it.
Stop pointing guns at law enforcement
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