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Originally Posted by EvilEyeFleegle
So you are conceding that the hacking took place...just that we, as a country, should do nothing, because Obama was President?
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That hacking took place has been undeniable for some time, unless one lives in a bubble. There have been consistent hacked email releases for months now.
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Originally Posted by EvilEyeFleegle
I'd say..that the Russians are responsible for their own actions...if a person leaves his door unlocked..it is careless..but he is not responsible for the burglary--that is the responsibility of the burglar.  |
That's absolutely wrong from the perspective of any reasonable American adult who does not live in an illusory version of the world.
All governments hack and will continue to hack as a matter of opportunity, to include this one.
The only reasonable, mature view is that the people who have to be held accountable in this nation are those who:
allow hacking either through flouting the law on handling classified information, as Clinton has repeatedly done, or
who fail to prevent hacking as a failure of their job responsibility.
So yes, when everyone is a burglar, to include yourself, that makes all burglar-homeowners primarily responsible and accountable for preventing the burglary.
Though also, I will state, that the home burglary metaphor is inadequate to describe the complexities of international relations and espionage.
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Originally Posted by EvilEyeFleegle
This is not a Left/Right thing to me..this is an attack on my country...and we should severely sanction Russia...not kiss their azz.
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That's how it could have gone, but it didn't thanks to the MSM. This is being spun to delegitimize the election and undermine Trump's office.
If you wanted to get on-board with denouncing how this is being handled, then I could theoretically get on board with your view provided that it would be expressed more specifically and less emotionally in order to facilitate measured action that is non-politicized.
But that's not how this has gone.
Since this is being used to attack Trump, the other side of this story must be again highlighted. That is: Hillary's role and this administration's failure in preventing the hacks. More immorally still, this is being used as a weapon after Clinton was let off of the hook for it - and let off of the hook by Trump as well. Lesson learned on his end, I suppose. Don't worry, we won't let anyone forget those central facts.
Beyond these considerations, there is no political sense nor will for sanctioning Russia, the other major superpower in the world, for what there is no hard evidence for. There is also little justification for doing so, in the hypothetical instance that they did do this, for merely releasing legitimate email communication that had bad things in it that, ignoring the hacking source, the American public should be made aware of.
What if Russia broke Watergate, revealed a Spy Ring in America, or revealed large scale banking fraud? Would you be as dismissive of the information in light of the source?
Sure, you might tighten up security afterward. But you wouldn't blame the people who benefit from the legitimate information of the hack: the democrats, the American people, or the bank customers? Would you?
Moreover, that those 'bad things' damaged the democratic party makes their current actions to undermine the presidency because of the email release seem to be berserker level attack after the election was lost. It seems unhinged.
After eight years of most of the Left living in their wildest fantasy as far as the POTUS is concerned, I'd think that they might be more conciliatory, or at least less crazy, in light of a Right Wing win. I suppose that, for them, the game is now all or nothing.
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