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Old 01-29-2017, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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"Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

The foundation of the United States is at risk. You are an immigrant unless you are Native American. We used to be know as the "free world". Trump has ruined that it the first days of his presidency. We are now an embarrassment.
That isn't the foundation of the United States, its just a sonnet by a new yorker, not policy, not law, not the constitution. There have been immigration restrictions in the US as long as there has been a United States. In the year before that poem was written was another immigration "ban". Trumps decision is nothing new for the US. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1882

"native americans" immigrated here too.
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Old 01-29-2017, 10:58 AM
 
Location: London
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I see a bunch of people freaking out acting like this will have a negative impact on their lives. Unless you are a refugee who ONLY wants to go to the US, then why are you whining? Do you want more potential criminals pouring into the US? Syrian refugees have done more harm than good. What do you have to gain in life from letting in a bunch of undocumented foreigners?

If you want Muslim refugees so bad, then why don't you host them in your own home?
Well, I was under the impression that the ban would only apply to refugees. Not to Ivy League attendees with green cards.

I don't want refugees here, but if someone is obviously going to be of true value to society, I think applying such a sweeping ban to them only generates hostility from other countries.

Iran is already about to ban US citizens - what if other countries band together to do the same as "protest" against Trump?

There goes career opportunities abroad.
There goes business opportunities abroad.
There goes the ability to travel in general (which is a huge part of who I am).
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Old 01-29-2017, 11:02 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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So you look forward to seeing more people in the country turn away from religion, buy you want to......bring tens of thousands of very religious people into the country? That doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
I look forward to young people turning away from the hypocrites. Not ALL churches are like that but unfortunately, the good ones are going down with the bad.

Kim Davis and her ilk has given Christianity a bad name. Along with the thrice married, kitty grabber, dirty old man that you just elected President. And his cohort, the white nationalist Steve Bannon. The evangelicals gave them their unqualified support. Hypocrites.

I am not focused on the religion of refugees.

Did we not participate in the bombing of Syria? WE are the ones who helped destroy their homeland. WE should now offer them help ~ I don't care what their religion is.
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Old 01-29-2017, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Seoul
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I see a bunch of people freaking out acting like this will have a negative impact on their lives. Unless you are a refugee who ONLY wants to go to the US, then why are you whining? Do you want more potential criminals pouring into the US? Syrian refugees have done more harm than good. What do you have to gain in life from letting in a bunch of undocumented foreigners?
How will gay marriage have a negative effect on your life?
How will abortion have a negative effect on your life?
How will legalized marijuana have a negative effect on your life?

Please do tell
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Old 01-29-2017, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Planet earth
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Ok, fair enough but please explain why isn't Afghanistan on the list?
My best guess is because not only do we have a major military presence there, they also have a fairly cooperative and pretty well established government there. Our military works hand in hand with the Afghani government. They appear to be working toward the same goal.
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Old 01-29-2017, 11:20 AM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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I see a bunch of people freaking out acting like this will have a negative impact on their lives. Unless you are a refugee who ONLY wants to go to the US, then why are you whining? Do you want more potential criminals pouring into the US? Syrian refugees have done more harm than good. What do you have to gain in life from letting in a bunch of undocumented foreigners?

If you want Muslim refugees so bad, then why don't you host them in your own home?
This explains why many white conservatives brush off racism..... it doesnt affect their life.

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Old 01-29-2017, 11:24 AM
 
Location: The analog world
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I see a bunch of people freaking out acting like this will have a negative impact on their lives. Unless you are a refugee who ONLY wants to go to the US, then why are you whining? Do you want more potential criminals pouring into the US? Syrian refugees have done more harm than good. What do you have to gain in life from letting in a bunch of undocumented foreigners?

If you want Muslim refugees so bad, then why don't you host them in your own home?
Beyond the reasons already elucidated, I oppose the ban because it's a scorched earth policy that destabilizes foreign relations, putting American citizens legitimately traveling, working, and living in other parts of the world at risk. Furthermore, it incites radicalism of U.S. residents with foreign ties or sympathies, potentially leading to more acts of domestic terrorism.

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Old 01-29-2017, 11:30 AM
 
Location: New Albany, Indiana (Greater Louisville)
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Many Democrat controlled places would have massive depopulation without immigration. Refugees are perfect for places that most international immigrants would overlook because you force them where to live. It gives a place like Erie PA and chance to gain population, tax revenue, and get lots of money from the feds. I live just outside Louisville KY, which places large numbers of refugees in bad neighborhoods to basically force gentrification. It gives the city some revenue from formerly vacant houses and increases the variety of restaurants. Louisville has a surprisingly large number of Middle Eastern restaurants due to refugees.
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Old 01-29-2017, 11:31 AM
 
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I look forward to young people turning away from the hypocrites. Not ALL churches are like that but unfortunately, the good ones are going down with the bad.

Kim Davis and her ilk has given Christianity a bad name. Along with the thrice married, kitty grabber, dirty old man that you just elected President. And his cohort, the white nationalist Steve Bannon. The evangelicals gave them their unqualified support. Hypocrites.

I am not focused on the religion of refugees.

Did we not participate in the bombing of Syria? WE are the ones who helped destroy their homeland. WE should now offer them help ~ I don't care what their religion is.
You aren't focused on the refugees' religion? This is the problem. You should be, especially if you have a bug up your ***** about religious people, as you seem to have.
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Old 01-29-2017, 11:35 AM
 
Location: New Market, MD
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I see a bunch of people freaking out acting like this will have a negative impact on their lives. Unless you are a refugee who ONLY wants to go to the US, then why are you whining? Do you want more potential criminals pouring into the US? Syrian refugees have done more harm than good. What do you have to gain in life from letting in a bunch of undocumented foreigners?

If you want Muslim refugees so bad, then why don't you host them in your own home?

Oh my life is not affected if he kills the entire world except me and my loved ones so that means I should quit stop complaining about what this guy does until that happens?
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