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Old 01-29-2017, 01:40 PM
 
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Nobody cares what you are "talking about" - we're concerned with what Trump and his goose-stepping followers are DOING.

Trump says lots of things - pay attention to his actions.. and try to keep up.
Nobody cares - especially me - what you're concerned about. Did I ask what YOU'RE concerned about?
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Old 01-29-2017, 01:50 PM
 
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I'm talking about refugees, please keep up.
This ban isn't just about refugees, please keep up.
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Old 01-29-2017, 01:50 PM
 
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This ban isn't just about refugees, please keep up.
Again... I was talking about refugees. PLEASE KEEP UP.

If I wanted to talk about anyone else, I would have. This is not difficult.

And I'm sorry, but last I checked... the thread title asks about... refugees.
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Old 01-29-2017, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Austin TX
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Some numbers to consider.

Sixteen countries refuse to allow Israeli passport holders entrance into their countries. Several of those sixteen countries also disallow admission by anyone with an Israel stamp in their passport regardless of nationality.

For those who believe this is a blanket ban on Muslims, consider this: five countries, including Indonesia, Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, and Nigeria, that are heavily-Muslim countries, aren't on the vetting list.

Do your homework. Review history. Gain perspective. Only then are you in a position to opine.
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Old 01-29-2017, 01:53 PM
 
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Again... I was talking about refugees. PLEASE KEEP UP.

If I wanted to talk about anyone else, I would have. This is not difficult.
Go ahead then, bury your head in the sand and pretend like this ban is only about refugees.
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Old 01-29-2017, 01:54 PM
 
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Go ahead then, bury your head in the sand and pretend like this ban is only about refugees.
What is the thread asking about?

When did I say the ban was only about refugees?

You're really good at ASSuming.
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Old 01-29-2017, 01:57 PM
 
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My work entails working with people who are legal residents of the USA. Some of the people I work with have been or may be affected by this EO and the ban. They are Iranians/Persian.

Previously, I worked in housing and served with communities that housed refugees, primarily Somali refugees. As a result, I have friends who are Somali refugees and they may be impacted by this ban.

Those of us who don't live in bubbles and who care about our fellow humans do are all affected by this move by our President.
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Old 01-29-2017, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Planet earth
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Maybe you should read the news if you think I'm "dreaming up" the fact that Trump is trying to take away the rights of legal, permanent residents of the United States. That is what those with green cards are considered in the eyes of the law. They cannot be dragged off planes or denied entry back into the US for going to visit family. These are people who have jobs here, who were building a life here.

I argued elsewhere that I believed prohibiting people from reentering when they had lawful permission is wrong and violates their natural right to due process. The problem with this appears to be what the MSM reported vs what the President ordered. It appears they may face additional reentry scrutiny, but what we've since found out is the President did not throw a blanket denial of entry to those who have already been processed and have a legal means to be in the country. It was just bad reporting.
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Old 01-29-2017, 02:05 PM
 
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I argued elsewhere that I believed prohibiting people from reentering when they had lawful permission is wrong and violates their natural right to due process. The problem with this appears to be what the MSM reported vs what the President ordered. It appears they may face additional reentry scrutiny, but what we've since found out is the President did not throw a blanket denial of entry to those who have already been processed and have a legal means to be in the country. It was just bad reporting.
I read that there was confusion at the airports over the executive order; a misunderstanding. Who knows what the truth actually is.
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Old 01-29-2017, 02:09 PM
 
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It has no effect on my life.

I am an American citizen.
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