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Old 02-07-2017, 04:21 PM
 
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Notice they left the "husband" part of the title.



The article title was very misleading. Any woman being raped (forced to have sex against her will) by her husband needs to get out of the marriage.

My baby would be my baby no matter who fathered the child. My baby.

They are always coming up with their crap to try to justify abortion. Whatever it takes to make them feel better about ordering the destruction of their babies.
I gave birth to my rapist's child. The courts ended up giving him my baby to raise the rest of the way. I ended up homeless. I was just receiving disability and had to pay child support out of less than $700/month. I lived in my car a lot because I couldn't afford housing. I wasn't even allowed to talk to her on the phone. No visitation whatsoever. They said I had alienated her from him when he hadn't even been in her life. They didn't care that he had raped me. They didn't care about all the times he beat me or even the time he was going to set me on fire. In the end she was legally my rapist's baby, not mine.

The reality is that the rape victim is legally expected to co-parent with her rapist if he exerts his rights. This is true whether the victim was married to him or not.
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Old 02-07-2017, 04:23 PM
 
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Sorry, marriage does not make a woman the property of her husband.


A woman cannot be owned, we are not breeding stock.


A husband cannot make any other medical decisions for a wife against her wishes, abortion is no different, it is a medical decision that effects her health, he has no say.
Has nothing to do with the woman being owned, it has to do with the father of an unborn child having an equal say in what he participated in to create.


The reality is, this legislation is intended to protect the rights of the father. THAT is why feminists hate it. Shrieking headlines about rapists forcing women to become incubators is intended to enrage women because the author thinks women are too stupid to read the underlying legislation and are too emotional to actually use reason and see that the "rape" angle is an infinitesimal aspect of the bill.
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Old 02-07-2017, 05:19 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Has nothing to do with the woman being owned, it has to do with the father of an unborn child having an equal say in what he participated in to create.


The reality is, this legislation is intended to protect the rights of the father. THAT is why feminists hate it. Shrieking headlines about rapists forcing women to become incubators is intended to enrage women because the author thinks women are too stupid to read the underlying legislation and are too emotional to actually use reason and see that the "rape" angle is an infinitesimal aspect of the bill.

Rape or not, he doesn't get an equal say because there is nothing equal about pregnancy.


The father has no say because he is not risking his health, his very life, by carrying a pregnancy to term. When it comes to pregnancy, the father has no rights until AFTER the birth.




Sorry dear, "we" are not pregnant, only the woman is pregnant and it is up to her, and her alone, to decide if she wants to carry the pregnancy to term. That's not emotion, that is cold, hard FACT.


On the other hand, what if the husband wants the wife to abort? Should he get the deciding vote then?


Can't have it both ways.
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Old 02-07-2017, 05:24 PM
 
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How do you plan on enforcing that?
If the father isn't notified of the pregnancy, he can opt out of child support. Period.
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Old 02-07-2017, 05:34 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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If the father isn't notified of the pregnancy, he can opt out of child support. Period.
Why would a woman who is planning to abort be worried about child support?
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Old 02-07-2017, 05:40 PM
 
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Why would a woman who is planning to abort be worried about child support?
It's the ones who aren't planning to abort that enslave men who don't want to be fathers for 18+ years of child support. That's a problem.
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Old 02-07-2017, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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It's the ones who aren't planning to abort that enslave men who don't want to be fathers for 18+ years of child support. That's a problem.

You are worried about that but not a rapist forcing a woman to have "his" child, which would effectively keep him involved in her life for at least 18 years?


And, sorry, I vote to "enslave" the man that did the deed instead of taxpayers who had nothing to do with creating the problem.
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Old 02-07-2017, 06:54 PM
 
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It's the ones who aren't planning to abort that enslave men who don't want to be fathers for 18+ years of child support. That's a problem.
How often does that happen?
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Old 02-07-2017, 07:04 PM
 
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No surprise that women are against something that evens the playing field regarding MEN being able to have some rights when it comes to children he does or does not want.
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Old 02-07-2017, 07:09 PM
 
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This law will most likely be over turned. They tried to pass a similar law in Mississippi and it was over turned. Hopefully abortion will become a non issue once the baby boomers gain less political power. Most people under 40 are pro choice by a large margin.
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